Been having a big time discussion stimulated by the post just previous to this one regarding the nature of sexual orientation and change. I want to thank those who have been posting. The posts are worth the read. I want to keep it going with a more focused question. Is human sexual orientation a discrete or continuous variable/trait?
From the article regarding David Akinsanya, the BBC correspondent who is pursuing reorientation but also consulted Qazi Rahman, British researcher: “Akinsanya underwent a number of tests (at Rahman’s lab), including measurement of his response to sudden loud noises and assessment of such spatial skills as his ability to rotate cubes conceptually. Both types of tests differentiate strongly between heterosexual and homosexual subjects. Akinsanya says he came out as “gay, gay, gay!” in every test.”
Now I wonder if Dr. Rahman also felt the bumps on David’s head?
I was interviewed over two days for this documentary. Alas, citing time limitations, the producers did not include the footage in the piece. I am anxious to see it however and review the “lab work” from Qazi Rahman. I talked with David Akinsanya for over 2 hours here in Grove City and then a couple of times afterwards by phone. I am supposed to receive a copy of the documentary soon. I will provide a review once I get it. If anyone reading this sees where it will be shown in the US, please post it.
Just caught David Parker on Fox News. His story is pretty amazing. For wanting to be notified when the subject of homosexuality would be discussed in school, he was arrested for trespassing in the Lexington (MA) schools. His son is 5 years old and going into first grade. If the school wins this, anyone who has a issue with the school may need to take counsel when attending a meeting.
John Evans says in his recent letter to Wayne Besen: “Now to actually claim that I was never a part of the original group that founded Love In Action boggles my mind.”
I am not claiming Mr. Evans was not there. I am exploring the roles people who were there played and I am exploring the spin surrounding the issue. My curiosity was piqued by Wayne Besen’s claims that none of the ex-gay organizational founders ever changed or remained straight. I have learned that the claim is not true as it relates to Exodus and I am now looking into that claim about Love in Action and may do so about other groups (for instance I have recently learned that there were two founders of Homosexuals Anonymous and one of them is still straight after 30 years).
Well, it is better than nothing. John Evans has commented about the beginnings of LIA through Wayne Besen’s website. I am still comparing time lines from all three men, Frank Worthen, Kent Philpott and John Evans but it appears there are some differences.
I think this whole issue is confounded by the use of the word founder. As it appears from both this post from Mr. Evans and what I am hearing from Mr. Worthen and Rev. Philpott, there were possibly as many as ten founders, if by founder we mean those who were at the meeting when the name “Love in Action” was suggested. Love in Action as such did not exist before that meeting. John Evans in this post makes it sound like everyone dropped out. Frank Worthen didn’t, and there is at least one other “founder” who is still ex-gay although I do not have permission to use his name.
As the reference to the Third Sex? makes clear, there were multiple organizers and participants who helped make these early LIA meetings go. Statements such as: “Former ex-gay John Evans, who co-founded Love In Action with Rev. Kent Philpott in 1973…” are misleading.
I think a more accurate description would be, “one of several founding members,” or “one of several original participants.” Mr. Evans’ post makes it even more clear that LIA at the beginning was little more than people gathering in a group for Bible study and or mutual encouragement. Furthermore Mr. Evans says in this most recent post that he didn’t envision a change ministry when he came to the first LIA meeting. This does not sound like he and Kent Philpott were on the same page, as one would expect with co-founders. A participant yes, a founder? I guess maybe this is in the eye of the beholder.
Here’s an example of “an expert is only someone who agrees with me” kind of thinking. This opinion piece mentions the book Destructive Trends in Mental Health edited by Rogers Wright and Nick Cummings but then seems to damn it because it was reviewed by Dean Byrd on the Narth website. Does this guy even know who Wright and Cummings are?
This look backwards is interesting to say the least.
For example, there are conflicting reports on the internet about when Jack McIntyre committed suicide. One source says 1975 and the best sources say 1977. I have found a death notice that places his death in early 1977 and can find nothing in 1975. This is relevant to the story for a variety of reasons, one of which is the frequent claim that John Evans left Love in Action after his friend Jack McIntyre’s suicide. A corollary to that claim is the one that Jack McIntyre spent 4 years in Love in Action and was driven to suicide by that group.
I continue to look for contact information for John Evans to get his perspective on these matters. Without that, there is reason to doubt these claims. According to a note by Rembert Truluck on his webpage, the first Evangelicals Concerned chapter was started in Marin county with Ralph Blair making a trip to see John Evans. This is consistent with Frank Worthen’s recollections that John Evans and Jack McIntyre and several other people left Love in Action about three months after the name Love in Action was adopted to join with Ralph Blair. This would have been late 1974 or early 1975, which is also given on the EC website as the founding year of EC. Since Jack McIntyre committed suicide in 1977, he would have been away from LIA and with EC for about two years. Also, John Evans would have left LIA before the suicide, not after as has been claimed. He may waited until after McIntyre’s death to denounce the ministry but he and McIntyre seem to have left LIA long before the suicide.
Most of these claims about LIA and Exodus seems to come from a common source but the claims are never sourced. I continue to explore and talk to people…
Strange as it may seem, my sincere effort to listen to those asking me to consider other views of the founders of ex-gay ministries has taken an interesting turn. I asked Wayne Besen for the contact information of John Evans who was involved in Love in Action early on and here is the response I received. Must have struck some kind of nerve.
Zach Stark has spoken out on a new blog (he took the old one down). He generally has good things to say about Love in Action and he now wants to be left alone. I am impressed with the generally mature responses he is giving to those posting on his blog.
No comment as yet from the Queer Action Coalition, the folks who broadcast Zach’s original blog to the world.