Uganda’s Rolling Stone blames terrorist attacks on gays

Escalating their war on homosexuality, Uganda’s Rolling Stone is blaming the Kampala bombings on gays, as well as making up links to terrorist Joseph Kony in the North. The following images are from the November 15-22 issue out now.

Click on the image on the right to read the Rolling Stone’s claims. As you will see, no sources are offered, no proof is provided. Perhaps in a nod to the recent court ruling in Uganda, the editors said that none of the bombings were carried out by people named in previous issues. That might be the only accruate statement in the entire article. However, a variety of terroristic activities are blamed on gays without any evidence whatsoever.

The article has no author and cites unnamed sources, but claims that the July attacks in Kampala during the World Cup were plotted by “deadly homosexuals living abroad.” The article claims homosexuals are angry that the government won’t respect their rights. The article claims without awareness of the contradiction that the government sent troops to Somali to cover the real story. The tale gets taller when the paper claims that homosexuals from the Middle East paid Somali terror group Al-Shabaab to bomb Kampala due to outrage over the Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Finally, gays are blamed for funding the Lord’s Resistance Army who have committed atrocities in the North.

This is another disturbing development in a series of such happenings. I will have more to say about this Monday, but I spoke yesterday with the mover of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, Hon. David Bahati, and he confirmed to me that he expects the bill to be considered during the lifetime of this parliamentary session. It seems likely that the Rolling Stone’s campaign is designed to increase pressure on the Museveni government, facing a surprisingly strong opposition heading into upcoming elections, to move the Anti-Homosexuality Bill toward passage (e.g., read the Rolling Stone’s editorial).

UPDATE: Boxturtlebulletin also has these images as well as images of one of the other tabloid focused on gays, The Onion. BTB provides one article acknowing that Martin Ssempa has lost support over his support of the AHB.

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  1. CORRECTION

    I should have said in my final sentence “any speech or published written material that is intended to incite hatred constitutes a criminal offence”.

  2. Richard, trust me, it’s a spoof. Honestly, what sane man spends this much time obsessing over ‘the gays’? Part of the fun is the way he tries to pin you down. I went along with it myself till I realized that Maazi is satire. Otherwise, let’s face it, he’d have to be bonkers, barking mad.

  3. 1. Are we correct in thinking that you believe Muhame’s actions are against Uganda’s ‘national interest’?

    This question has already been answered. Please read my previous postings.

    2. Do you condemn Muhame’s activities?

    Again, I refer you to my previous postings.

    3. Do you support or oppose the work of the WHO?

    What a bizarre question. Please read my commentary on the other thread slowly and then judge for yourself.

    4. Are you really claiming that distributing leaflets offering the provision of advice and/or support constitutes ‘recruitment’, abuse or exploitation? Do you really believe this? If so, why?

    Only parents have right to raise their children. Close relatives can also assist. No stranger—a gay sex practitioner at that—has right to brainwash any child with nonsense propaganda. If any sodomite came to my teenage son—I have none at the moment—and handed him a flyer inviting him to a meeting where gayism will be discussed then I will accuse such a sodomite of solicitation and grooming of a vulnerable person. A revised Bahati Bill will criminalize that particular action.

    5. Have you spent time in the UK (you did say something on another thread that suggested that you knew something about ‘gay scene’ – whatever that means – in the UK)?

    Only quacks talk about the mythical gay gene. There is no CREDIBLE scientific evidence that gayism is “inborn” or “genetic”. If you want to know what my research work was on, all you had to do was ask directly. I am an Electrical Engineer and my post-graduate research work was on that subject plus a bit of Digital Signalling and Solid State Physics (i.e. Electronics).

  4. And the Bahati Bill is targeted at Ugandans, including Ugandans abroad. It would have little or no effect on foreigners.

    So, are you going to answer my questions (I’ll number them to make it easier for you)?

    1. Are we correct in thinking that you believe Muhame’s actions are against Uganda’s ‘national interest’?

    2. Do you condemn Muhame’s activities?

    3. Do you support or oppose the work of the WHO?

    4. Are you really claiming that distributing leaflets offering the provision of advice and/or support constitutes ‘recruitment’, abuse or exploitation? Do you really believe this? If so, why?

    5. Have you spent time in the UK (you did say something on another thread that suggested that you knew something about ‘gay scene’ – whatever that means – in the UK)?

    Brief, relevant answers to these questions would be most appreciated.

  5. You may be right, Stephen.

    Generally, he argues his bad case rather well, although he has slipped up once or twice – for example when, on another thread, he cited the WHO as an authority only hours before dismissing it as ‘western’ (his highest form of insult, it seems).

  6. You were in the UK for a time, weren’t you, Maazi?

    Yes. I did my post-graduate research degree there. No, I will not tell you the name of the university for obvious reasons. But it is well-known for scientific/engineering research.

    Well, it seems that foreigners who backed those in the ‘anti-gay’ lobby are now withdrawing (actually, diverting) support. Martin Ssempa has lost both US and Dutch support, according to the UG press.

    This is a personal matter for Dr. Martin Ssempa to deal with. I do not see how this has any bearing on the Ugandan people’s resolve that gayism remain a criminal offence.You seem too interested in the opinions of some individuals rather than the opinion of the Ugandan masses. It would be great if the euro-american gay lobby can follow the cue of their anti-gay colleagues and withdraw support from our local gay sex militants.

    Distributing fliers inviting people to seek advise if they wish to do so is NOT ‘imposing’ anything, by the way. It is merely an offer of advise and, maybe, assistance.

    In Uganda, most people see that action as “child recruitment into gay lifestyle”

    Threatening people with life imprisonment or death by hanging is quite a different matter.

    A well-revised Bahati Bill will eliminate crudities and fashion a sharp instrument to beat the cross-border challenge posed by the Euro-American gay lobby.

    You may be right, Stephen.

    Generally, he argues his bad case rather well, although he has slipped up once or twice – for example when, on another thread, he cited the WHO as an authority only hours before dismissing it as ‘western’ (his highest form of insult, it seems).

    It seems Stephen has hypnotized you into his world of crass delusion.

  7. Whoops … I meant ‘advice’, not ‘advise’. (I’m British!)

    You were in the UK for a time, weren’t you, Maazi?

  8. Hello again, Maazi.

    You seem to suggest that Muhame is acting contrary to Uganda’s national interest. Is that you view? If so, I agree with you.Are we correct to understand that you condemn Muhame’s actions?

    Richard Willmer,

    Muhame’s action has nothing to do with any national interest in my opinion. What Muhame is doing is not ethically right. It is as simple as that. Nothing more. Perhaps, Muhame’s action has something to do with the national (gay) interest of Western nations?

    I suppose the one GOOD thing about all this is that the ‘recruitment’ propaganda is now thoroughly discredited ‘by association’.

    Not really. It would be discredited when the sex deviants stop their subtle advertisement of their abhorrent lifestyles. Stop the clandestine distribution of fliers calling on vulnerable young people “confused with their sexuality” to get in touch with them.

    Of course those of us with African friends (and I have many) do not for a moment think that all Africans are like Bahati, Buturo and Muhame. We KNOW otherwise.

    Most Africans do not want gayism imposed on them via legal enshrinement. They do not appreciate Western obsession with this depraved lifestyle.This antipathy towards gayism cuts across religious, socio-economic, ethnic and gender lines. While many may think that the original Bahati Bill is far too extreme, they generally share the view that gayism should never be allowed a foot through the door. Your “African friends”—if they exist— are in the infinitesimal minority and probably share with you a strong euro-centric worldview.

    Furthermore, my somewhat dim view of the three unsavoury characters I’ve mentioned (let’s not forget that Buturo was a buddy of Obote before he became a chum of M7, after a spell of some years in certain western country) is shared by many Ugandans.

    I am not a fan of Buturo or even our eternal President. But we are talking of gayism here not the personality of James Buturo. This is the issue that unites all African people. It is probably one of the few areas where incumbent governments and political opposition in many African nations are in complete agreement. In Zimbabwe, even Robert Mugabe and his mortal enemy Morgan Tsvangirai agree on this matter. In Uganda, the Bahati bill was a designed by a member of the ruling NRM party and co-sponsored by a member of UPC party. UPC is the party of former President Milton Obote who fought a deadly war with NRM in the 1980s. I have no doubt that Kizza Besigye’s view on this matter is not so far from that of his archenemy President Museveni

    It was Scott Lively who came to UG with ‘guidance’, not us! We’re trying to help, by providing information and fair-minded comment.

    Scott Lively was invited by the Ugandan Parliament in 2009 to give his views on an anti-gay bill which was already in the works following foreign-directed gay militancy which began around 2005 and had intensified by 2007. That invitation is no different to US Congress inviting certain foreign personalities to address them. Scott Lively was not there to provide any “guidance” to the Ugandan people. He was there to share his opinions on the matter. Your statement is just an example of what I have been saying about the average westerner’s view of Africans….

  9. Richard, I’m convinced that ‘Maazi’ is a gay boy living in Georgetown posting hilarious satires here of extreme anti-gay language to expose the hypocrisy behind much of the current nonsense being spouted in the States on the same subject. His preposterous notion that American gay men are somehow ‘recruiting’ boys in Uganda is only a hop, skip and a jump away from the claptrap coming out of the ‘ex-gay’ ministries here, for example. Plus, he captures perfectly the tone of the aggrieved, petty official of a post-colonial kleptocracy. I say bravo. The idea that he could possibly mean what he writes to be literally true is, of course, too appalling to contemplate.

  10. Thank you.

    I have reread your posts and am still not clear on your position re. 1. and 2.. Why not answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

    Re. 3.: I’ll leave things were they are.

    Re. 4.: YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I was asking if you really believe it is credible to equate handing out leaflets with sexual abuse/exploitation/recruitment, and not whether you agreed with the distribution leaflets (clearly you do not).

    Why not show us one of these leaflets, and we could then analyse its contents?

    Re. 5.: Don’t quite understand your answer, but never mind.

    So you’re currently doing research in the UK then? (I’ve noticed that we keep similar hours.)

  11. And I didn’t say I agreed with Stephen … I merely said that what he said might be true. I have my own theory about who you might be … but I’ll keep that to myself.

  12. The power of the press…in service of propaganda.

    I completely agree. However I will add that pro-gay blogs operated by proxies of the Euro-American gay lobby are mirror images of the tabloids such as the Rolling Stone and Red Pepper

  13. Maazi

    We are not telling lies. People like Lively, Bahati and Muhame are. That’s the difference! And it’s a key difference.

  14. Nor are we saying that people like you should be hanged or thrown into jail.

  15. I’m thinking if these papers want to take their names from famous US papers, “Weekly World News” and “The Enquirer” would be more appropriate choices.

  16. Warren, did my comment hit your filters? It had two links in it. But it didn’t even come back and say it was being moderated… so I am going to try it again!!

  17. Fast work, Warren. Excellent!

    U.S. politicians need to know about all this; senior British politicians have already been informed.

  18. Sorry Maazi, you do not know the full story of that which you are pontificating.

    In America there exist many communities which are cohesive in both heritage and religion. Farm families have been especially close-knit, most especially those originating from Germany and adjacent parts of Belgium, France, and Switzerland. Whole families from some communities came to settle in the farm community in which I grew up. German and French were common spoken languages (and in some places Belgian Walloon (like the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin). German was the language of my family’s Catholic parish up until WWI. You claim we do not know you. I surely can claim the same.

  19. @ Stephen

    You may be correct.

    @ Maazi

    IF you are in the UK, it would only be fair to advise you that the FCO is now monitoring this blog.

    As I’m sure you understand it is the duty of HM Government to be fully informed of all possibilities, in order to best protect the vital interest of British citizens currently in UG (especially aid workers, members of NGOs, etc.). It is also the case that making false and/or defamatory statements (e.g. suggesting that all gays abuse minors) about groups of people could be ‘legally problematic’, so, if you are currently in the UK and you decide to continue to comment, you should choose your words with extreme care. Remember that people who engage in ANY sexual act persuant to informed consent are deemed NOT to be criminals in this jurisdiction. To say that they are constitutes a blatant disregard for British law. Any speech that might be deemed to incite hatred could constitute a criminal offence.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

  20. It puzzles any sane person why Gay Lobbysts can never understand the position of Ugandans.

    Oh, we do. Entirely.

    You’ve made no attempt to mask your motivations. You are a nation and culture which can best be described in your words:

    We hate…

  21. Maazi is just one devoted Ugandan who has understood his culture perfectly and can seperate the wheat from the chaff. It puzzles any sane person why Gay Lobbysts can never understand the position of Ugandans. Maazi is one of the 30 million who have never and will never embrace the deviant behaviour. I am the other.

    Secondly the great interests of the Gay Lobbysts is individual responses as opposed to collective responses from the nation. Pile pressure and open up more asylum doors for the sodomites. We hate it, denounce and will fight it. Our stand point is clear. Cutting off support to Bahati, Buturo, Ssempa etc does not stall our fight against gayism, pressure from the West has never pressed us down. Our stand is clear, very clear and clear indeed.

  22. We do understand why Uganda is so homophobic. Many of us lived in a similar American society back in the ’60s and into the ’70s, especially in smaller farming communities. It exists in portions of America to this day. But more compassionate, and for the most part, Christian minds have prevailed in America. Because people came to know a gay or lesbian person, know about their life, know about their love.

    But that is the fear inherant in Bahati’s bill. He and other do not want the truth about the lives of Uganda’s gays and lesbians to be spoken. The whole country has been that way for some time now, and surely will be for quite some time to come. But when even the Catholic archbishop and the Anglican leaders have spoken out against this bill, one can be sure that what is attempting to be enacted is quite unChristian in content. So perhaps you should leave god out of the motto in this respect.

    This sounds like a propaganda pitch. Uganda does not in any way resemble the United States whether in 1930, 1950, 1970 or 2010. We have a society which is communal in structure and places a strong emphasis on procreation as a means of perpetuating one’s family lineage. Christianity and Islam merely arrived our shores to reinforce that ethos. United States was never like that. It was more of a safe haven for some Protestant Christian sects fleeing persecution from Europe (particularly, the British Empire) and family structures there were never as cohesive and closely knit as that of African societies. If you think that the Ugandan people will ever contemplate the idea of their sons getting married to each other, then you are clearly mistaken.

  23. Through numerous face-to-face conversations and internet exchanges, I have noticed that Westerners always get overly emotional and resort to insults, threats and cheap blackmail when their strongly held views are rejected by other people. Richard Willmer accuses me of being resident in the UK and has threatened to call—wait for it !!——Her Majesty’s Government Service (007) to arrest me for refusing to bend over for the euro-american gay lobby. Stephen, believes that I am— in his words—- “a gay boy living in Georgetown posting hilarious satires here of extreme anti-gay language to expose the hypocrisy behind much of the current nonsense being spouted in the [United] States…..”. Despite my nuanced opinions on how gayism should be tackled without extremism, Lynn continues to delude himself that I am interested in getting any one killed. According to Lynn, it is impossible to support the strengthening of penal laws without wanting to get some one murdered. Gayism is a sex crime and will remain so, but vigilantism (or inciting vigilantism) is illegal under the laws of Uganda.

  24. Maazi… Gayism is already disliked and no one needs Rolling Stone to do just that.

    Gee…. I didn’t say anything that would meaningfully elicit such a comment. Does that mean you are all ready to take the law into your own hands and hang all Ugandan gays like the Rolling Stone demands? Of course not. So, next time try making a reasonably intelligent comment.

    You are just repeating lies told by euro-american gay propagandists.

    You’re so involved in your hatreds that you can’t see anything near the truth, let alone the sense in which some comments aree made. ‘Nuclear bomb’ was Lively’s own description of his speech to Ugandan parliamentarians. You are set in such single-minded attempt in an offensive about this issue that you do not recognize the sense in which most of our messages are delivered. So you might as well quit, you’re not saying anything pertinent to the discussion – it is simply a bore.

  25. Hello again, Maazi.

    You seem to suggest that Muhame is acting contrary to Uganda’s national interest. Is that you view? If so, I agree with you.

    Are we correct to understand that you condemn Muhame’s actions?

  26. Um, I am not the average Westerner, whatever that is

    While not accusing you personally, I stand by my statement that the average westerner thinks the African people are irrational beings who needed to be guided. One only needs to read one paragraph of a story on Africa in the Western Press to see this. One needs to watch Hollywood, documentaries or TV news reports to see that.

    And it is graduates and students at your Makerere University who are putting out the rubbish. These guys are serious, I have corresponded with them and read their interviews, and as you soon see, they are being defended by one of your famous Parliamentarians. Perhaps, your complaints should be addressed to the journalism dept at MU.

    I am neither a staff member nor a student of Makerere University. I do not know Giles Muhame or his friends. I have no interest whatsoever in approaching anybody to lay a complaint. My commentary is directed at an observation which I have made—-which is that this Giles Muhame guy seems to have discovered how to push your buttons and that of other Westerners who obviously feel that it is their job to dictate to the African people (and other non-western people) what their moral principles and culture should be. This latest story in the Rolling Stone is not directed at a Ugandan audience who obviously cannot buy the caricature of “Homo Generals” running the 24-year war in the North and plotting with Somali terrorists to bomb Kampala. This story is for foreign consumption and is designed to give the tabloid owners international headlines in New York Times, Washington Post, CNN International, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I can already see Giles Muhame smiling and sipping a glass of wine when this latest story finally breaks out on newspaper pages, radio stations and TV studios of the gayism-obsessed Western media.

  27. Maazi…. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation.

    .

    This story is for foreign consumption and is designed to give the tabloid owners international headlines in New York Times, Washington Post, CNN International, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I can already see Giles Muhame smiling and sipping a glass of wine when this latest story finally breaks out on newspaper pages, radio stations and TV studios of the gayism-obsessed Western media.

    So no one is buying the ‘Rolling Stone’ in Uganda and it is a doomed publication because all Ugandans know gays aren’t the kind of people who build up armies and subjugate innocent people?

    .

    And yet they bought it in 2009 when Scott Lively delivered his “nuclear bomb” against gays at a breakfast meeting in the Ugandan Parliament Conference Hall. Lively was true to false form when he presented himself as a “foremost expert” on homosexuality. He began by exploiting Ugandan’s fears of child sexual molestation as a prime recruitment tactic into homosexuality. And then he delved into his historical revisionism behind The Pink Swastika, and used that theory to explain that gays were probably responsible for the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

    .

    The point is that in any society there will always be a those willing to believe anything concerning any group which is generally despised. There already exist certain lies which are accepted as truth concerning gays, even by representatives in your Parliament. And even if Rolling Stone’s yellow journalism is not believable, the effect is to instill further hatred.

  28. By the way, I think Warren is entirely correct in his assessment of Muhame’s personality and aims. He and I have been watching him for some weeks, and he (Warren) has been communicating with important people who want to ‘eridicate gays’ and who appear to approve of what Muhame is doing.

    Of course those of us with African friends (and I have many) do not for a moment think that all Africans are like Bahati, Buturo and Muhame. We KNOW otherwise. Furthermore, my somewhat dim view of the three unsavoury characters I’ve mentioned (let’s not forget that Buturo was a buddy of Obote before he became a chum of M7, after a spell of some years in certain western country) is shared by many Ugandans.

  29. Richard Willmer,

    My response to your commentary is in some kind of moderation queue. I will let Warren sort that out.

  30. MaaziNCO said:

    Even a 10 year old in Uganda knows that the bombings in Kampala was organised by Somali terrorists based in Mogadishu. Even a retard in Uganda knows that the war in the North of the country has nothing to do with sodomites. This tabloid is only doing this rubbish to rile people like you up and receive some headlines in New York Times, CNN international, BBC, etc. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation. Having said that, you guys confirm what I have always known——-that the average westerner thinks that African adults are not complex and reason like children. That Africans are incapable of making a critical analysis of any situation.

    Um, I am not the average Westerner, whatever that is. And it is graduates and students at your Makerere University who are putting out the rubbish. These guys are serious, I have corresponded with them and read their interviews, and as you soon see, they are being defended by one of your famous Parliamentarians. Perhaps, your complaints should be addressed to the journalism dept at MU.

  31. Escalating their war on homosexuality, Uganda’s Rolling Stone is blaming the Kampala bombings on gays, as well as making up links to terrorist Joseph Kony in the North. The following images are from the November 15-22 issue out now.

    This is another disturbing development in a series of such happenings.

    Even a 10 year old in Uganda knows that the bombings in Kampala was organised by Somali terrorists based in Mogadishu. Even a retard in Uganda knows that the war in the North of the country has nothing to do with sodomites. This tabloid is only doing this rubbish to rile people like you up and receive some headlines in New York Times, CNN international, BBC, etc. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation. Having said that, you guys confirm what I have always known——-that the average westerner thinks that African adults are not complex and reason like children. That Africans are incapable of making a critical analysis of any situation.

    Fast work, Warren. Excellent!

    U.S. politicians need to know about all this; senior British politicians have already been informed.

    You are a very funny person. Do you think that Uganda is like Gibraltar or Falkland Islands—–a British Overseas Territory? Or that Uganda is a US colony like American Samoa, Guam or Puerto Rico?

  32. I suppose the one GOOD thing about all this is that the ‘recruitment’ propaganda is now thoroughly discredited ‘by association’.

    (Of course there are incidents of both ‘homo-‘ and ‘hetero-‘ sexual abuse and exploitation, in Ugandan, as elsewhere; such as occur can be dealt with by the relevant current laws.)

    Maazi

    It was Scott Lively who came to UG with ‘guidance’, not us! We’re trying to help, by providing information and fair-minded comment.

  33. Sorry Maazi, you do not know the full story of that which you are pontificating.

    In America there exist many communities which are cohesive in both heritage and religion. Farm families have been especially close-knit, most especially those originating from Germany and adjacent parts of Belgium, France, and Switzerland. Whole families from some communities came to settle in the farm community in which I grew up. German and French were common spoken languages (and in some places Belgian Walloon (like the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin). German was the language of my family’s Catholic parish up until WWI. You claim we do not know you. I surely can claim the same.

  34. We do understand why Uganda is so homophobic. Many of us lived in a similar American society back in the ’60s and into the ’70s, especially in smaller farming communities. It exists in portions of America to this day. But more compassionate, and for the most part, Christian minds have prevailed in America. Because people came to know a gay or lesbian person, know about their life, know about their love.

    But that is the fear inherant in Bahati’s bill. He and other do not want the truth about the lives of Uganda’s gays and lesbians to be spoken. The whole country has been that way for some time now, and surely will be for quite some time to come. But when even the Catholic archbishop and the Anglican leaders have spoken out against this bill, one can be sure that what is attempting to be enacted is quite unChristian in content. So perhaps you should leave god out of the motto in this respect.

    This sounds like a propaganda pitch. Uganda does not in any way resemble the United States whether in 1930, 1950, 1970 or 2010. We have a society which is communal in structure and places a strong emphasis on procreation as a means of perpetuating one’s family lineage. Christianity and Islam merely arrived our shores to reinforce that ethos. United States was never like that. It was more of a safe haven for some Protestant Christian sects fleeing persecution from Europe (particularly, the British Empire) and family structures there were never as cohesive and closely knit as that of African societies. If you think that the Ugandan people will ever contemplate the idea of their sons getting married to each other, then you are clearly mistaken.

  35. Through numerous face-to-face conversations and internet exchanges, I have noticed that Westerners always get overly emotional and resort to insults, threats and cheap blackmail when their strongly held views are rejected by other people. Richard Willmer accuses me of being resident in the UK and has threatened to call—wait for it !!——Her Majesty’s Government Service (007) to arrest me for refusing to bend over for the euro-american gay lobby. Stephen, believes that I am— in his words—- “a gay boy living in Georgetown posting hilarious satires here of extreme anti-gay language to expose the hypocrisy behind much of the current nonsense being spouted in the [United] States…..”. Despite my nuanced opinions on how gayism should be tackled without extremism, Lynn continues to delude himself that I am interested in getting any one killed. According to Lynn, it is impossible to support the strengthening of penal laws without wanting to get some one murdered. Gayism is a sex crime and will remain so, but vigilantism (or inciting vigilantism) is illegal under the laws of Uganda.

  36. Last I read there were 38 million Ugandans. Does that mean 8 million now support gays and lesbians in Uganda? Yes, I know, of course not….

    Well, you’re wrong. We do understand why Uganda is so homophobic. Many of us lived in a similar American society back in the ’60s and into the ’70s, especially in smaller farming communities. It exists in portions of America to this day. But more compassionate, and for the most part, Christian minds have prevailed in America. Because people came to know a gay or lesbian person, know about their life, know about their love.

    But that is the fear inherant in Bahati’s bill. He and other do not want the truth about the lives of Uganda’s gays and lesbians to be spoken. The whole country has been that way for some time now, and surely will be for quite some time to come. But when even the Catholic archbishop and the Anglican leaders have spoken out against this bill, one can be sure that what is attempting to be enacted is quite unChristian in content. So perhaps you should leave god out of the motto in this respect.

  37. It puzzles any sane person why Gay Lobbysts can never understand the position of Ugandans.

    Oh, we do. Entirely.

    You’ve made no attempt to mask your motivations. You are a nation and culture which can best be described in your words:

    We hate…

  38. Maazi is just one devoted Ugandan who has understood his culture perfectly and can seperate the wheat from the chaff. It puzzles any sane person why Gay Lobbysts can never understand the position of Ugandans. Maazi is one of the 30 million who have never and will never embrace the deviant behaviour. I am the other.

    Secondly the great interests of the Gay Lobbysts is individual responses as opposed to collective responses from the nation. Pile pressure and open up more asylum doors for the sodomites. We hate it, denounce and will fight it. Our stand point is clear. Cutting off support to Bahati, Buturo, Ssempa etc does not stall our fight against gayism, pressure from the West has never pressed us down. Our stand is clear, very clear and clear indeed.

  39. Last I read there were 38 million Ugandans. Does that mean 8 million now support gays and lesbians in Uganda? Yes, I know, of course not….

    Well, you’re wrong. We do understand why Uganda is so homophobic. Many of us lived in a similar American society back in the ’60s and into the ’70s, especially in smaller farming communities. It exists in portions of America to this day. But more compassionate, and for the most part, Christian minds have prevailed in America. Because people came to know a gay or lesbian person, know about their life, know about their love.

    But that is the fear inherant in Bahati’s bill. He and other do not want the truth about the lives of Uganda’s gays and lesbians to be spoken. The whole country has been that way for some time now, and surely will be for quite some time to come. But when even the Catholic archbishop and the Anglican leaders have spoken out against this bill, one can be sure that what is attempting to be enacted is quite unChristian in content. So perhaps you should leave god out of the motto in this respect.

  40. @ Lynn

    The key point that Maazi keeps avoiding is that the Bahati Bill is primarily designed to ‘eliminate / remove from society’ Ugandans who happen to gay or who speak up for the fundamental human rights of gay Ugandans. This ‘euro-american’ stuff is simply a distraction, as are the ridiculous claims that distributing leaflets (which are, I suspect, designed to promote public health agendas) constitutes abuse / exploitation / recruitment.

    Will he produce such a leaflet for our scrutiny? Has he even ever seen one, I wonder? Or is he simply a victim of the anti-gay propaganda he has embraced?

    Over to Maazi!

  41. Maazi… Gayism is already disliked and no one needs Rolling Stone to do just that.

    Gee…. I didn’t say anything that would meaningfully elicit such a comment. Does that mean you are all ready to take the law into your own hands and hang all Ugandan gays like the Rolling Stone demands? Of course not. So, next time try making a reasonably intelligent comment.

    You are just repeating lies told by euro-american gay propagandists.

    You’re so involved in your hatreds that you can’t see anything near the truth, let alone the sense in which some comments aree made. ‘Nuclear bomb’ was Lively’s own description of his speech to Ugandan parliamentarians. You are set in such single-minded attempt in an offensive about this issue that you do not recognize the sense in which most of our messages are delivered. So you might as well quit, you’re not saying anything pertinent to the discussion – it is simply a bore.

  42. CORRECTION

    I should have said in my final sentence “any speech or published written material that is intended to incite hatred constitutes a criminal offence”.

  43. @ Stephen

    You may be correct.

    @ Maazi

    IF you are in the UK, it would only be fair to advise you that the FCO is now monitoring this blog.

    As I’m sure you understand it is the duty of HM Government to be fully informed of all possibilities, in order to best protect the vital interest of British citizens currently in UG (especially aid workers, members of NGOs, etc.). It is also the case that making false and/or defamatory statements (e.g. suggesting that all gays abuse minors) about groups of people could be ‘legally problematic’, so, if you are currently in the UK and you decide to continue to comment, you should choose your words with extreme care. Remember that people who engage in ANY sexual act persuant to informed consent are deemed NOT to be criminals in this jurisdiction. To say that they are constitutes a blatant disregard for British law. Any speech that might be deemed to incite hatred could constitute a criminal offence.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

  44. Richard, trust me, it’s a spoof. Honestly, what sane man spends this much time obsessing over ‘the gays’? Part of the fun is the way he tries to pin you down. I went along with it myself till I realized that Maazi is satire. Otherwise, let’s face it, he’d have to be bonkers, barking mad.

  45. Thank you.

    I have reread your posts and am still not clear on your position re. 1. and 2.. Why not answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

    Re. 3.: I’ll leave things were they are.

    Re. 4.: YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I was asking if you really believe it is credible to equate handing out leaflets with sexual abuse/exploitation/recruitment, and not whether you agreed with the distribution leaflets (clearly you do not).

    Why not show us one of these leaflets, and we could then analyse its contents?

    Re. 5.: Don’t quite understand your answer, but never mind.

    So you’re currently doing research in the UK then? (I’ve noticed that we keep similar hours.)

  46. @ Lynn

    The key point that Maazi keeps avoiding is that the Bahati Bill is primarily designed to ‘eliminate / remove from society’ Ugandans who happen to gay or who speak up for the fundamental human rights of gay Ugandans. This ‘euro-american’ stuff is simply a distraction, as are the ridiculous claims that distributing leaflets (which are, I suspect, designed to promote public health agendas) constitutes abuse / exploitation / recruitment.

    Will he produce such a leaflet for our scrutiny? Has he even ever seen one, I wonder? Or is he simply a victim of the anti-gay propaganda he has embraced?

    Over to Maazi!

  47. 1. Are we correct in thinking that you believe Muhame’s actions are against Uganda’s ‘national interest’?

    This question has already been answered. Please read my previous postings.

    2. Do you condemn Muhame’s activities?

    Again, I refer you to my previous postings.

    3. Do you support or oppose the work of the WHO?

    What a bizarre question. Please read my commentary on the other thread slowly and then judge for yourself.

    4. Are you really claiming that distributing leaflets offering the provision of advice and/or support constitutes ‘recruitment’, abuse or exploitation? Do you really believe this? If so, why?

    Only parents have right to raise their children. Close relatives can also assist. No stranger—a gay sex practitioner at that—has right to brainwash any child with nonsense propaganda. If any sodomite came to my teenage son—I have none at the moment—and handed him a flyer inviting him to a meeting where gayism will be discussed then I will accuse such a sodomite of solicitation and grooming of a vulnerable person. A revised Bahati Bill will criminalize that particular action.

    5. Have you spent time in the UK (you did say something on another thread that suggested that you knew something about ‘gay scene’ – whatever that means – in the UK)?

    Only quacks talk about the mythical gay gene. There is no CREDIBLE scientific evidence that gayism is “inborn” or “genetic”. If you want to know what my research work was on, all you had to do was ask directly. I am an Electrical Engineer and my post-graduate research work was on that subject plus a bit of Digital Signalling and Solid State Physics (i.e. Electronics).

  48. And the Bahati Bill is targeted at Ugandans, including Ugandans abroad. It would have little or no effect on foreigners.

    So, are you going to answer my questions (I’ll number them to make it easier for you)?

    1. Are we correct in thinking that you believe Muhame’s actions are against Uganda’s ‘national interest’?

    2. Do you condemn Muhame’s activities?

    3. Do you support or oppose the work of the WHO?

    4. Are you really claiming that distributing leaflets offering the provision of advice and/or support constitutes ‘recruitment’, abuse or exploitation? Do you really believe this? If so, why?

    5. Have you spent time in the UK (you did say something on another thread that suggested that you knew something about ‘gay scene’ – whatever that means – in the UK)?

    Brief, relevant answers to these questions would be most appreciated.

  49. And I didn’t say I agreed with Stephen … I merely said that what he said might be true. I have my own theory about who you might be … but I’ll keep that to myself.

  50. Maazi

    We are not telling lies. People like Lively, Bahati and Muhame are. That’s the difference! And it’s a key difference.

  51. The power of the press…in service of propaganda.

    I completely agree. However I will add that pro-gay blogs operated by proxies of the Euro-American gay lobby are mirror images of the tabloids such as the Rolling Stone and Red Pepper

  52. You were in the UK for a time, weren’t you, Maazi?

    Yes. I did my post-graduate research degree there. No, I will not tell you the name of the university for obvious reasons. But it is well-known for scientific/engineering research.

    Well, it seems that foreigners who backed those in the ‘anti-gay’ lobby are now withdrawing (actually, diverting) support. Martin Ssempa has lost both US and Dutch support, according to the UG press.

    This is a personal matter for Dr. Martin Ssempa to deal with. I do not see how this has any bearing on the Ugandan people’s resolve that gayism remain a criminal offence.You seem too interested in the opinions of some individuals rather than the opinion of the Ugandan masses. It would be great if the euro-american gay lobby can follow the cue of their anti-gay colleagues and withdraw support from our local gay sex militants.

    Distributing fliers inviting people to seek advise if they wish to do so is NOT ‘imposing’ anything, by the way. It is merely an offer of advise and, maybe, assistance.

    In Uganda, most people see that action as “child recruitment into gay lifestyle”

    Threatening people with life imprisonment or death by hanging is quite a different matter.

    A well-revised Bahati Bill will eliminate crudities and fashion a sharp instrument to beat the cross-border challenge posed by the Euro-American gay lobby.

    You may be right, Stephen.

    Generally, he argues his bad case rather well, although he has slipped up once or twice – for example when, on another thread, he cited the WHO as an authority only hours before dismissing it as ‘western’ (his highest form of insult, it seems).

    It seems Stephen has hypnotized you into his world of crass delusion.

  53. You may be right, Stephen.

    Generally, he argues his bad case rather well, although he has slipped up once or twice – for example when, on another thread, he cited the WHO as an authority only hours before dismissing it as ‘western’ (his highest form of insult, it seems).

  54. Richard, I’m convinced that ‘Maazi’ is a gay boy living in Georgetown posting hilarious satires here of extreme anti-gay language to expose the hypocrisy behind much of the current nonsense being spouted in the States on the same subject. His preposterous notion that American gay men are somehow ‘recruiting’ boys in Uganda is only a hop, skip and a jump away from the claptrap coming out of the ‘ex-gay’ ministries here, for example. Plus, he captures perfectly the tone of the aggrieved, petty official of a post-colonial kleptocracy. I say bravo. The idea that he could possibly mean what he writes to be literally true is, of course, too appalling to contemplate.

  55. Nor do we seek to promote hatred and violence against innocent people.

  56. Whoops … I meant ‘advice’, not ‘advise’. (I’m British!)

    You were in the UK for a time, weren’t you, Maazi?

  57. Distributing fliers inviting people to seek advise if they wish to do so is NOT ‘imposing’ anything, by the way. It is merely an offer of advise and, maybe, assistance.

    Threatening people with life imprisonment or death by hanging is quite a different matter.

  58. Well, it seems that foreigners who backed those in the ‘anti-gay’ lobby are now withdrawing (actually, diverting) support. Martin Ssempa has lost both US and Dutch support, according to the UG press.

  59. Richard Willmer,

    My response to your commentary is in some kind of moderation queue. I will let Warren sort that out.

  60. The point is that in any society there will always be a those willing to believe anything concerning any group which is generally despised. There already exist certain lies which are accepted as truth concerning gays, even by representatives in your Parliament. And even if Rolling Stone’s yellow journalism is not believable, the effect is to instill further hatred.

    Gayism is already disliked and no one needs Rolling Stone to do just that. The only thing that can intensify the people’s anger is the militancy of local gay sex practitioners who are poking their fingers in the eyes of the Ugandan people with the backing of their foreign sponsors.

    And yet they bought it in 2009 when Scott Lively delivered his “nuclear bomb” against gays at a breakfast meeting in the Ugandan Parliament Conference Hall. Lively was true to false form when he presented himself as a “foremost expert” on homosexuality. He began by exploiting Ugandan’s fears of child sexual molestation as a prime recruitment tactic into homosexuality. ….

    Lynn Davids,

    You are just repeating lies told by euro-american gay propagandists. Long before Scott Lively appeared on the scene, Ugandans had witnessed a press conference where some people wearing masks demanded that they be given right to engage in sex crimes. It didn’t take long for the sex deviants to distribute fliers asking young people who they claimed were “confused with their sexuality” to get in touch with them. Then there came the scandal of the UNESCO boss distributing pro-gay literature in schools without the permission of the education ministry. All these events taking place between 2005 and 2007. By the time Scott Lively made his appearance in 2009, most Ugandans believed that sex deviants were trying to recruit their children in the name of “confused sexuality” and most already knew that Westerners via NGOs and UN agencies were trying to impose gayism on the people.

  61. Hello again, Maazi.

    You seem to suggest that Muhame is acting contrary to Uganda’s national interest. Is that you view? If so, I agree with you.Are we correct to understand that you condemn Muhame’s actions?

    Richard Willmer,

    Muhame’s action has nothing to do with any national interest in my opinion. What Muhame is doing is not ethically right. It is as simple as that. Nothing more. Perhaps, Muhame’s action has something to do with the national (gay) interest of Western nations?

    I suppose the one GOOD thing about all this is that the ‘recruitment’ propaganda is now thoroughly discredited ‘by association’.

    Not really. It would be discredited when the sex deviants stop their subtle advertisement of their abhorrent lifestyles. Stop the clandestine distribution of fliers calling on vulnerable young people “confused with their sexuality” to get in touch with them.

    Of course those of us with African friends (and I have many) do not for a moment think that all Africans are like Bahati, Buturo and Muhame. We KNOW otherwise.

    Most Africans do not want gayism imposed on them via legal enshrinement. They do not appreciate Western obsession with this depraved lifestyle.This antipathy towards gayism cuts across religious, socio-economic, ethnic and gender lines. While many may think that the original Bahati Bill is far too extreme, they generally share the view that gayism should never be allowed a foot through the door. Your “African friends”—if they exist— are in the infinitesimal minority and probably share with you a strong euro-centric worldview.

    Furthermore, my somewhat dim view of the three unsavoury characters I’ve mentioned (let’s not forget that Buturo was a buddy of Obote before he became a chum of M7, after a spell of some years in certain western country) is shared by many Ugandans.

    I am not a fan of Buturo or even our eternal President. But we are talking of gayism here not the personality of James Buturo. This is the issue that unites all African people. It is probably one of the few areas where incumbent governments and political opposition in many African nations are in complete agreement. In Zimbabwe, even Robert Mugabe and his mortal enemy Morgan Tsvangirai agree on this matter. In Uganda, the Bahati bill was a designed by a member of the ruling NRM party and co-sponsored by a member of UPC party. UPC is the party of former President Milton Obote who fought a deadly war with NRM in the 1980s. I have no doubt that Kizza Besigye’s view on this matter is not so far from that of his archenemy President Museveni

    It was Scott Lively who came to UG with ‘guidance’, not us! We’re trying to help, by providing information and fair-minded comment.

    Scott Lively was invited by the Ugandan Parliament in 2009 to give his views on an anti-gay bill which was already in the works following foreign-directed gay militancy which began around 2005 and had intensified by 2007. That invitation is no different to US Congress inviting certain foreign personalities to address them. Scott Lively was not there to provide any “guidance” to the Ugandan people. He was there to share his opinions on the matter. Your statement is just an example of what I have been saying about the average westerner’s view of Africans….

  62. I suppose the one GOOD thing about all this is that the ‘recruitment’ propaganda is now thoroughly discredited ‘by association’.

    (Of course there are incidents of both ‘homo-‘ and ‘hetero-‘ sexual abuse and exploitation, in Ugandan, as elsewhere; such as occur can be dealt with by the relevant current laws.)

    Maazi

    It was Scott Lively who came to UG with ‘guidance’, not us! We’re trying to help, by providing information and fair-minded comment.

  63. Distributing fliers inviting people to seek advise if they wish to do so is NOT ‘imposing’ anything, by the way. It is merely an offer of advise and, maybe, assistance.

    Threatening people with life imprisonment or death by hanging is quite a different matter.

  64. Well, it seems that foreigners who backed those in the ‘anti-gay’ lobby are now withdrawing (actually, diverting) support. Martin Ssempa has lost both US and Dutch support, according to the UG press.

  65. The point is that in any society there will always be a those willing to believe anything concerning any group which is generally despised. There already exist certain lies which are accepted as truth concerning gays, even by representatives in your Parliament. And even if Rolling Stone’s yellow journalism is not believable, the effect is to instill further hatred.

    Gayism is already disliked and no one needs Rolling Stone to do just that. The only thing that can intensify the people’s anger is the militancy of local gay sex practitioners who are poking their fingers in the eyes of the Ugandan people with the backing of their foreign sponsors.

    And yet they bought it in 2009 when Scott Lively delivered his “nuclear bomb” against gays at a breakfast meeting in the Ugandan Parliament Conference Hall. Lively was true to false form when he presented himself as a “foremost expert” on homosexuality. He began by exploiting Ugandan’s fears of child sexual molestation as a prime recruitment tactic into homosexuality. ….

    Lynn Davids,

    You are just repeating lies told by euro-american gay propagandists. Long before Scott Lively appeared on the scene, Ugandans had witnessed a press conference where some people wearing masks demanded that they be given right to engage in sex crimes. It didn’t take long for the sex deviants to distribute fliers asking young people who they claimed were “confused with their sexuality” to get in touch with them. Then there came the scandal of the UNESCO boss distributing pro-gay literature in schools without the permission of the education ministry. All these events taking place between 2005 and 2007. By the time Scott Lively made his appearance in 2009, most Ugandans believed that sex deviants were trying to recruit their children in the name of “confused sexuality” and most already knew that Westerners via NGOs and UN agencies were trying to impose gayism on the people.

  66. Maazi…. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation.

    .

    This story is for foreign consumption and is designed to give the tabloid owners international headlines in New York Times, Washington Post, CNN International, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I can already see Giles Muhame smiling and sipping a glass of wine when this latest story finally breaks out on newspaper pages, radio stations and TV studios of the gayism-obsessed Western media.

    So no one is buying the ‘Rolling Stone’ in Uganda and it is a doomed publication because all Ugandans know gays aren’t the kind of people who build up armies and subjugate innocent people?

    .

    And yet they bought it in 2009 when Scott Lively delivered his “nuclear bomb” against gays at a breakfast meeting in the Ugandan Parliament Conference Hall. Lively was true to false form when he presented himself as a “foremost expert” on homosexuality. He began by exploiting Ugandan’s fears of child sexual molestation as a prime recruitment tactic into homosexuality. And then he delved into his historical revisionism behind The Pink Swastika, and used that theory to explain that gays were probably responsible for the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

    .

    The point is that in any society there will always be a those willing to believe anything concerning any group which is generally despised. There already exist certain lies which are accepted as truth concerning gays, even by representatives in your Parliament. And even if Rolling Stone’s yellow journalism is not believable, the effect is to instill further hatred.

  67. By the way, I think Warren is entirely correct in his assessment of Muhame’s personality and aims. He and I have been watching him for some weeks, and he (Warren) has been communicating with important people who want to ‘eridicate gays’ and who appear to approve of what Muhame is doing.

    Of course those of us with African friends (and I have many) do not for a moment think that all Africans are like Bahati, Buturo and Muhame. We KNOW otherwise. Furthermore, my somewhat dim view of the three unsavoury characters I’ve mentioned (let’s not forget that Buturo was a buddy of Obote before he became a chum of M7, after a spell of some years in certain western country) is shared by many Ugandans.

  68. Hello again, Maazi.

    You seem to suggest that Muhame is acting contrary to Uganda’s national interest. Is that you view? If so, I agree with you.

    Are we correct to understand that you condemn Muhame’s actions?

  69. Um, I am not the average Westerner, whatever that is

    While not accusing you personally, I stand by my statement that the average westerner thinks the African people are irrational beings who needed to be guided. One only needs to read one paragraph of a story on Africa in the Western Press to see this. One needs to watch Hollywood, documentaries or TV news reports to see that.

    And it is graduates and students at your Makerere University who are putting out the rubbish. These guys are serious, I have corresponded with them and read their interviews, and as you soon see, they are being defended by one of your famous Parliamentarians. Perhaps, your complaints should be addressed to the journalism dept at MU.

    I am neither a staff member nor a student of Makerere University. I do not know Giles Muhame or his friends. I have no interest whatsoever in approaching anybody to lay a complaint. My commentary is directed at an observation which I have made—-which is that this Giles Muhame guy seems to have discovered how to push your buttons and that of other Westerners who obviously feel that it is their job to dictate to the African people (and other non-western people) what their moral principles and culture should be. This latest story in the Rolling Stone is not directed at a Ugandan audience who obviously cannot buy the caricature of “Homo Generals” running the 24-year war in the North and plotting with Somali terrorists to bomb Kampala. This story is for foreign consumption and is designed to give the tabloid owners international headlines in New York Times, Washington Post, CNN International, BBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I can already see Giles Muhame smiling and sipping a glass of wine when this latest story finally breaks out on newspaper pages, radio stations and TV studios of the gayism-obsessed Western media.

  70. MaaziNCO said:

    Even a 10 year old in Uganda knows that the bombings in Kampala was organised by Somali terrorists based in Mogadishu. Even a retard in Uganda knows that the war in the North of the country has nothing to do with sodomites. This tabloid is only doing this rubbish to rile people like you up and receive some headlines in New York Times, CNN international, BBC, etc. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation. Having said that, you guys confirm what I have always known——-that the average westerner thinks that African adults are not complex and reason like children. That Africans are incapable of making a critical analysis of any situation.

    Um, I am not the average Westerner, whatever that is. And it is graduates and students at your Makerere University who are putting out the rubbish. These guys are serious, I have corresponded with them and read their interviews, and as you soon see, they are being defended by one of your famous Parliamentarians. Perhaps, your complaints should be addressed to the journalism dept at MU.

  71. Escalating their war on homosexuality, Uganda’s Rolling Stone is blaming the Kampala bombings on gays, as well as making up links to terrorist Joseph Kony in the North. The following images are from the November 15-22 issue out now.

    This is another disturbing development in a series of such happenings.

    Even a 10 year old in Uganda knows that the bombings in Kampala was organised by Somali terrorists based in Mogadishu. Even a retard in Uganda knows that the war in the North of the country has nothing to do with sodomites. This tabloid is only doing this rubbish to rile people like you up and receive some headlines in New York Times, CNN international, BBC, etc. In fact, by writing something so obviously rubbish, the Rolling Stone has signed its own death warrant in terms of newspaper circulation. Having said that, you guys confirm what I have always known——-that the average westerner thinks that African adults are not complex and reason like children. That Africans are incapable of making a critical analysis of any situation.

    Fast work, Warren. Excellent!

    U.S. politicians need to know about all this; senior British politicians have already been informed.

    You are a very funny person. Do you think that Uganda is like Gibraltar or Falkland Islands—–a British Overseas Territory? Or that Uganda is a US colony like American Samoa, Guam or Puerto Rico?

  72. From the Government of Uganda, 2010 UNGASS COUNTRY PROGRESS REPORT:

    Uganda Most-at-risk-Populations (MARPs):

    Although, the HIV epidemic has become generalized, there are still sections of the population that are at relatively higher risk of HIV infection compared to the general population. Within the Uganda context, the MARPs have been identified to include commercial sex workers (CSWs); fishing communities; displaced people (IDPs) and refugees; persons in uniformed services; and persons with disability (PWDs). Prevalence of HIV&AIDS is overwhelmingly high among the MARPs. Although, national data on the prevalence rate of HIV is not available, reported prevalence from participants of project studies shows the rate is higher than the national average. The lack of up-to-date data in itself is driving the epidemic. For instance, the CSWs, their clients and partners of clients contribute 10% of new infections.

    The government doesn’t much worry about gays infected by HIV as being MSRPs. The government report does state a few facts about men who have sex with men. It states that of those having anal sex, 49.3% reported the use of a condom during their last sexual contact (from the 2008/2009 Crane Report). Among adults aged 15–49 who have had more than one sexual partner in the past 12 months, the men who reported the use of a condom during their last sexual intercourse was only 16.1 %. While not directly correlable it does show a propensity among heterosexuals who are promiscuous in Uganda not to use condoms when compared to gay Ugandans.

    .

    But as to the Crane Survey, I am not sure about a 2008 Survey (which may have been incomplete?) but preliminary results from a 2010 Crane Survery questioned 303 men who have sex with men and only 13.7% reported that they were HIV positive.

    .

    I imagine the Rolling Stone editorial sought to cherry-pick statistics perhaps those with not so many gay men responding and only those coming forward in the early days of the Crane Survey to make a point that gays need help also with the disease.

  73. Warren, did my comment hit your filters? It had two links in it. But it didn’t even come back and say it was being moderated… so I am going to try it again!!

  74. From the Government of Uganda, 2010 UNGASS COUNTRY PROGRESS REPORT:

    Uganda Most-at-risk-Populations (MARPs):

    Although, the HIV epidemic has become generalized, there are still sections of the population that are at relatively higher risk of HIV infection compared to the general population. Within the Uganda context, the MARPs have been identified to include commercial sex workers (CSWs); fishing communities; displaced people (IDPs) and refugees; persons in uniformed services; and persons with disability (PWDs). Prevalence of HIV&AIDS is overwhelmingly high among the MARPs. Although, national data on the prevalence rate of HIV is not available, reported prevalence from participants of project studies shows the rate is higher than the national average. The lack of up-to-date data in itself is driving the epidemic. For instance, the CSWs, their clients and partners of clients contribute 10% of new infections.

    The government doesn’t much worry about gays infected by HIV as being MSRPs. The government report does state a few facts about men who have sex with men. It states that of those having anal sex, 49.3% reported the use of a condom during their last sexual contact (from the 2008/2009 Crane Report). Among adults aged 15–49 who have had more than one sexual partner in the past 12 months, the men who reported the use of a condom during their last sexual intercourse was only 16.1 %. While not directly correlable it does show a propensity among heterosexuals who are promiscuous in Uganda not to use condoms when compared to gay Ugandans.

    .

    But as to the Crane Survey, I am not sure about a 2008 Survey (which may have been incomplete?) but preliminary results from a 2010 Crane Survery questioned 303 men who have sex with men and only 13.7% reported that they were HIV positive.

    .

    I imagine the Rolling Stone editorial sought to cherry-pick statistics perhaps those with not so many gay men responding and only those coming forward in the early days of the Crane Survey to make a point that gays need help also with the disease.

  75. I’m thinking if these papers want to take their names from famous US papers, “Weekly World News” and “The Enquirer” would be more appropriate choices.

  76. Fast work, Warren. Excellent!

    U.S. politicians need to know about all this; senior British politicians have already been informed.

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