The headline says it all. There can be little doubt that the Fellowship Foundation condemns the bill. They provided one of the most powerful platforms possible to offer specific condemnations of the bill.
In Clinton’s keynote address and Obama’s prepared remarks, they both condemned the bill.
Oh, Hillary, you are looking so tired. Take care of yourself. We need you. It’s not easy doing the job of Secretary of State and trying to keep the President from destroying our country in every conceivable way. You are the one who should be sitting in the Oval Office now. Through some hideous act of fate, an inept, inexperienced, shallow-minded individual grabbed that seat. Oh, Lord, I hope we can hang on until 2012!
Inhofe likely not included at that Ugandan Prayer Breakfast, now says Sharlet on the other thread.
Then again, David, there is what Sharlet said on the “Ugandan reaction mixed” thread about Bahati not getting any reaction (at least strong reaction) against the bill when it was introduced at the Ugandan Prayer Breakfast from those Americans present (Inhofe included?).
It can easily be inferred. Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) used to campaign on three issues in Oklahoma (I should know I was there), it was simply ‘god, guns, and gays.’ He might have been for the first two, but he was vehemently against the latter. You can also gauge Inhofe’s feeling by something he said 3 or 4 years ago. It was something to the effect that ‘there has never been a recorded instance of homosexuality/homosexual relationship in his (immediate) family’ or that he hires openly-gay staffers (I remember finding it odd that he used the word recorded). Inhofe is an active member of the Fellowship/Family. He has made it clear that he has taken Uganda under his wing and travelled there at least 20 times on ‘missionary trips’ (I might add I think that was on the government’s dime). It can be assumed that Inhofe then took under his wing one of the first Ugandans to come to the Fellowship, David Bahati, who wrote the bill.
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Certainly, Inhofe probably never had anything good to say about gays or lesbians. Likely, he might have commiserated with Ugandans about not having sodomy laws in the States after Lawrence v. Texas and been happy that Uganda still had them to ‘keep the gays down.’ It has also been intimated by Jeff Sharlet that Inhofe may have been in Uganda and at the Parliament when the Bahati bill was introduced.
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Now if that is not at least inference, I don’t know what is.
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Facebook was changing over to a new style and all sorts of groups went missing for a day or two.
Cool. Did anyone ever say why it disappeared?
Throckmorton’s. And yes, it’s back.
Is the word ‘have’ incorrect here or is the Uganda FB site back in operation? If not, which of the Uganda FB sites is it that often has the most accurate and up to date information?
Hi Lynn David,
I thought other participants in C street had condemned the bill…and I don’t think a direct connection to the bill can be demonstrated, or even inferred.
Interested…
I have found that this site and the Uganda FB site often have the most accurate and up-to-date information on matters related to the Uganda Bill.
Not everybody is up to date on what is occurring or what people think. The APH had a newsconference yesterday, in reporting on it Wayne Besen stated Coe was being ‘silent’ on the bill. He and the APH website were basically correct, then, if not so, now. Just a matter of being up to date. And add in a little zeal.
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You might ask yourself, who is Obama’s “we.” If “we” connotes all Christians in America, then certainly, not all Christians agree about marriage for gays & lesbians. Some are decidedly for it. If “we” simply meant you and Obama, then yes, you two agree on marriage for gays & lesbians…. or I assume you do, you are not in favor of it, are you?
Warren:
did you see this?
found here:
http://www.americanprayerhour.org/
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Did Obama say we disagree on Gay Marriage?
This sounds new, I thought we agreed.
Condemnations are good, but should have been robustly applauded; it is strange to see, on some level, the first televised public condemnation of the Ugandan legislation by the President and by Hillary so many months later.