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	<title>Comments on: Another possible US connection to the Anti-Homosexuality Bill: Disciple Nations Alliance and Stephen Langa</title>
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		<title>By: Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill: What are American Christians doing? &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill: What are American Christians doing? &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nations Alliance &#8211; The African representative of mission organization DNA is Stephen Langa. Langa organized the ex-gay conference in March which was designed to kick off efforts to enact [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Disciple Nations Alliance clarifies position on Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disciple Nations Alliance clarifies position on Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Warren   On December 14, I posted about a possible link to the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill: Disciple Nations Alliance.  Stephen Langa is the African affiliate of the DNA and has been for about 10 years. I asked the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Warren   On December 14, I posted about a possible link to the Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill: Disciple Nations Alliance.  Stephen Langa is the African affiliate of the DNA and has been for about 10 years. I asked the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Busee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Busee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chase.  You are being overly kind.  As some here would agree, I do not always conduct myself with diginty or patience.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chase.  You are being overly kind.  As some here would agree, I do not always conduct myself with diginty or patience.  <img src='http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chase Hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase Hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, as always, I admire your dignity and patience in regards to many comments on this issue.  However, for people like Dave who will internally justify his own beliefs my over-simplifying history and warping moral justice, it is best to just let them be.  Their change will only happen with their own desire for it.

Much love,
Chase Hutchison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, as always, I admire your dignity and patience in regards to many comments on this issue.  However, for people like Dave who will internally justify his own beliefs my over-simplifying history and warping moral justice, it is best to just let them be.  Their change will only happen with their own desire for it.</p>
<p>Much love,<br />
Chase Hutchison</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if everyone at the conference says they oppose criminilization, how did supporters of this BIll in Uganda get the impression that they favored it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if everyone at the conference says they oppose criminilization, how did supporters of this BIll in Uganda get the impression that they favored it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave G:  I still don&#039;t get how homosexuality is so appealing to straight people that they would become addicted to it to the point that it would destroy both the family and society.  I have never understood such reasoning.  Can you explain what makes homosexuality so appealing to straight people?&lt;blockquote&gt;Those ancient civilizations crumbled with the loss of family integrity resulting from sexual promiscuity –including homosexuality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Where are you getting this information?  Who has concluded that this is why these ancient civilizations crumbled?  People have been making this claim for as long as I can remember, but where&#039;s the proof?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave G:  I still don&#8217;t get how homosexuality is so appealing to straight people that they would become addicted to it to the point that it would destroy both the family and society.  I have never understood such reasoning.  Can you explain what makes homosexuality so appealing to straight people?<br />
<blockquote>Those ancient civilizations crumbled with the loss of family integrity resulting from sexual promiscuity –including homosexuality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where are you getting this information?  Who has concluded that this is why these ancient civilizations crumbled?  People have been making this claim for as long as I can remember, but where&#8217;s the proof?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might wonder if the Hate Crimes Bill in the United States is in some way partly responsible for so many Christian pastors and groups fleeing from the approval of such a bill as that in Uganda.  Were it so, it  would give Uganda just another reason to pass the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might wonder if the Hate Crimes Bill in the United States is in some way partly responsible for so many Christian pastors and groups fleeing from the approval of such a bill as that in Uganda.  Were it so, it  would give Uganda just another reason to pass the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Allen, Darrow Miller, and Bob Moffitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Allen, Darrow Miller, and Bob Moffitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Disciple Nations Alliance has appeared in the news recently in relationship to our friend Stephen Langa and his involvement with Uganda’s Anti Homosexuality Bill, 2009.  We, as co-founders and leaders of the Disciple Nations Alliance, first heard of this bill when a reporter contacted us to gain our opinion on the bill last Friday (December 11). We have since obtained a copy of the bill and are now examining it. 

 We have been friends with Stephen for nearly ten years. We have tremendous respect for him, and for what we know of his work to strengthen families in Uganda.  Stephen is an elder at Watoto Church in Kampala, which we consider to be a model for other churches in its care for thousands of Ugandan children orphaned by HIV AIDS.  Watoto Church ministers to hundreds, if not thousands of people who are dying of AIDS and their surviving family members. It has been actively involved in AIDs education, encouraging young men and women to act in morally responsibly ways in order to avoid the ravages of sexually transmitted diseases. Seeing the profound devastation of families in Uganda, they are actively working to strengthen families.  

The Disciple Nations Alliance is a network of individuals and organizations in over 60 countries who share a common vision to see the global Church rise to her full potential as God’s agent for the healing, blessing and transformation of the nations. We share a common set of core beliefs and operating principles (see www.disciplenations.org/about).  While we have affiliates around the world, there are no legal or organizational ties between them; including Family Life Ministries and Transforming Nations Alliance that Stephen helps lead. Stephen’s opinions are his own. The governance and decision making of the Ugandan organizations he leads are independent of the Disciple Nations Alliance.

We believe that people who engage in same gender sexual activities are image bearers of God possessing profound, inherent and equal dignity. They have a God-given right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As human beings, they are to be treated with love and respect. Like all people, they are sinners and can be saved by the death of Christ on the cross.

Churches have a responsibility to love and engage with those who have chosen to live a homosexual life in the same way they would reach out and engage with any other person. The church is to call its members to personal and public purity, and to govern their lives in ways that comport with biblical standards of ethical behavior. Such internal self-government creates the framework for free nations. The church is also called to serve as the conscience of the nation by humbly, lovingly and prophetically addressing the wounds and moral failings of their society.

The state has a different, yet compatible role. It exists to defend and protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens. Its principle role is to suppress external evil such as murder, theft, and rape. It does this largely by creating and administering just laws and maintaining an active military. 

With this in mind, we do not believe that engaging in consensual homosexual acts in the privacy of one’s own home, or failure to report such acts should be criminalized.  However we are opposed to efforts to re-define marriage laws which are based on the historic and traditional understanding of marriage as the covenantal relationship of one man and one woman for life. We are likewise opposed to efforts to normalize homosexual activity through the use of books and curricula in public schools. We oppose these and other public advocacy efforts whose intent is to lead to a state sanction for something that is immoral, which will seriously undermine the family, and will eventually lead to the collapse of a society.  We endorse and support the recently released Manhattan Declaration (www.manhattandeclaration.org), and specifically its statement on marriage.
We believe that sexual crimes such as rape, incest, child prostitution or pedophilia should be appropriately prohibited and punished under the law regardless of whether victim or perpetrator practices same gender sexual activity or is heterosexual.   
 As the Uganda bill currently exists, we have some concerns: specifically the criminalizing of private, consensual homosexual practice, the severity some of the penalties, and the tone of the language. We recognize that this bill is in process and will reserve further comment until a final version is submitted to the Ugandan parliament. 

We recognize that sovereign nations have the right to establish their own laws; at the same time, other nations, international bodies and individual citizens have the right and responsibility to challenge laws that are unjust. We would encourage Christians, as citizens of nations, to seek to engage as free citizens in the market place and Public Square. They should contribute to the challenging of unjust laws and the creating of just laws. Christians, like any citizen are to contribute to the building of their nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Disciple Nations Alliance has appeared in the news recently in relationship to our friend Stephen Langa and his involvement with Uganda’s Anti Homosexuality Bill, 2009.  We, as co-founders and leaders of the Disciple Nations Alliance, first heard of this bill when a reporter contacted us to gain our opinion on the bill last Friday (December 11). We have since obtained a copy of the bill and are now examining it. </p>
<p> We have been friends with Stephen for nearly ten years. We have tremendous respect for him, and for what we know of his work to strengthen families in Uganda.  Stephen is an elder at Watoto Church in Kampala, which we consider to be a model for other churches in its care for thousands of Ugandan children orphaned by HIV AIDS.  Watoto Church ministers to hundreds, if not thousands of people who are dying of AIDS and their surviving family members. It has been actively involved in AIDs education, encouraging young men and women to act in morally responsibly ways in order to avoid the ravages of sexually transmitted diseases. Seeing the profound devastation of families in Uganda, they are actively working to strengthen families.  </p>
<p>The Disciple Nations Alliance is a network of individuals and organizations in over 60 countries who share a common vision to see the global Church rise to her full potential as God’s agent for the healing, blessing and transformation of the nations. We share a common set of core beliefs and operating principles (see <a href="http://www.disciplenations.org/about" rel="nofollow">http://www.disciplenations.org/about</a>).  While we have affiliates around the world, there are no legal or organizational ties between them; including Family Life Ministries and Transforming Nations Alliance that Stephen helps lead. Stephen’s opinions are his own. The governance and decision making of the Ugandan organizations he leads are independent of the Disciple Nations Alliance.</p>
<p>We believe that people who engage in same gender sexual activities are image bearers of God possessing profound, inherent and equal dignity. They have a God-given right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As human beings, they are to be treated with love and respect. Like all people, they are sinners and can be saved by the death of Christ on the cross.</p>
<p>Churches have a responsibility to love and engage with those who have chosen to live a homosexual life in the same way they would reach out and engage with any other person. The church is to call its members to personal and public purity, and to govern their lives in ways that comport with biblical standards of ethical behavior. Such internal self-government creates the framework for free nations. The church is also called to serve as the conscience of the nation by humbly, lovingly and prophetically addressing the wounds and moral failings of their society.</p>
<p>The state has a different, yet compatible role. It exists to defend and protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens. Its principle role is to suppress external evil such as murder, theft, and rape. It does this largely by creating and administering just laws and maintaining an active military. </p>
<p>With this in mind, we do not believe that engaging in consensual homosexual acts in the privacy of one’s own home, or failure to report such acts should be criminalized.  However we are opposed to efforts to re-define marriage laws which are based on the historic and traditional understanding of marriage as the covenantal relationship of one man and one woman for life. We are likewise opposed to efforts to normalize homosexual activity through the use of books and curricula in public schools. We oppose these and other public advocacy efforts whose intent is to lead to a state sanction for something that is immoral, which will seriously undermine the family, and will eventually lead to the collapse of a society.  We endorse and support the recently released Manhattan Declaration (www.manhattandeclaration.org), and specifically its statement on marriage.<br />
We believe that sexual crimes such as rape, incest, child prostitution or pedophilia should be appropriately prohibited and punished under the law regardless of whether victim or perpetrator practices same gender sexual activity or is heterosexual.<br />
 As the Uganda bill currently exists, we have some concerns: specifically the criminalizing of private, consensual homosexual practice, the severity some of the penalties, and the tone of the language. We recognize that this bill is in process and will reserve further comment until a final version is submitted to the Ugandan parliament. </p>
<p>We recognize that sovereign nations have the right to establish their own laws; at the same time, other nations, international bodies and individual citizens have the right and responsibility to challenge laws that are unjust. We would encourage Christians, as citizens of nations, to seek to engage as free citizens in the market place and Public Square. They should contribute to the challenging of unjust laws and the creating of just laws. Christians, like any citizen are to contribute to the building of their nations.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVE G</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael -
Those ancient civilizations crumbled with the loss of family integrity resulting from sexual promiscuity --including homosexuality.  It&#039;s well-known that sex can be addicting, and homosexual conduct is not exempt. &quot;Fear, hatred and violence&quot; are not to be condoned, but self-preservation of our civilization must be achieved. 
Yes, life is important; especially in terms of successive generations, for which homosexuality does not qualify.
In a generation of shattered family relationships and/or challenges to youth to &quot;try something new and funky&quot; homosexuality is being promoted and condoned as &quot;normal, natural and healthy,&quot; --which it is not.
Also, human sexuality is fluid enough that with our God-given free will, it can be seen as a viable option.  But the consequences for future generations are dismal. That&#039;s why cultures globally have rejected it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael -<br />
Those ancient civilizations crumbled with the loss of family integrity resulting from sexual promiscuity &#8211;including homosexuality.  It&#8217;s well-known that sex can be addicting, and homosexual conduct is not exempt. &#8220;Fear, hatred and violence&#8221; are not to be condoned, but self-preservation of our civilization must be achieved.<br />
Yes, life is important; especially in terms of successive generations, for which homosexuality does not qualify.<br />
In a generation of shattered family relationships and/or challenges to youth to &#8220;try something new and funky&#8221; homosexuality is being promoted and condoned as &#8220;normal, natural and healthy,&#8221; &#8211;which it is not.<br />
Also, human sexuality is fluid enough that with our God-given free will, it can be seen as a viable option.  But the consequences for future generations are dismal. That&#8217;s why cultures globally have rejected it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides which, what would make homosexual behavior so appealing to straight people that you would have to threaten them with death to keep them from doing it?  It just doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides which, what would make homosexual behavior so appealing to straight people that you would have to threaten them with death to keep them from doing it?  It just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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