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	<title>Comments on: Op-ed in Uganda&#8217;s Independent: Put down the stones</title>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kigingi Busagwa ~ &lt;/strong&gt;This is not a time to negotiate truth.Laws are made for law breakers in order to protect other people in society according to the word of God.  God knows that laws cant change hearts of people to do right but these laws will finally lead these law breakers towards His mercy otherwise how will God give mercy and these civil laws protect society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Uganda is a theocracy with your brand of Christianity in charge?   Funny, I thought people were free to determine religious &#039;truth&#039; in your country according to their own faith.   Who knows, there may be some who see homosexuality in a whole different theological light than you, as well as interpret their god or gods in different ways.
&lt;blockquote&gt;These people who say that it is a private affair and that everyone has their own privacy to do what they want in their bedrooms,are mistaken because if the love making your parents did in private brought forth you in the world and you have become part of our public-it is wrong for you to think That the gays have a right to do their thing in private and it will not affect the public.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s wrong because it is wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Kigingi Busagwa ~ </strong>This is not a time to negotiate truth.Laws are made for law breakers in order to protect other people in society according to the word of God.  God knows that laws cant change hearts of people to do right but these laws will finally lead these law breakers towards His mercy otherwise how will God give mercy and these civil laws protect society.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uganda is a theocracy with your brand of Christianity in charge?   Funny, I thought people were free to determine religious &#8216;truth&#8217; in your country according to their own faith.   Who knows, there may be some who see homosexuality in a whole different theological light than you, as well as interpret their god or gods in different ways.</p>
<blockquote><p>These people who say that it is a private affair and that everyone has their own privacy to do what they want in their bedrooms,are mistaken because if the love making your parents did in private brought forth you in the world and you have become part of our public-it is wrong for you to think That the gays have a right to do their thing in private and it will not affect the public.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s wrong because it is wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Kigingi Busagwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kigingi Busagwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus told the woman caught  in adultery to &quot;go and sin no more&quot;.He did not say go back to your old life. God is a God of mercy and rejoices with the truth not a lie. Its in the new testament 1Corinthians 6 that the bible warns us that homosexuals will not enter heaven.This is not a time to negotiate truth.Laws are made for law breakers in order to protect other people in society according to the word of God.God knows that laws cant change hearts of people to do right but these laws will finally lead these law breakers towards His mercy otherwise how will God give mercy and these civil laws protect society.I wonder if Warren will turn away from civil laws in the name of laws dont change hearts? Civil laws that are made to protect the family and marriage cannot be graded as satanic and anti-God.These people who say that it is a private affair and that everyone has their own privacy to do what they want in their bedrooms,are mistaken because if the love making your parents did in private brought forth you in the world and you have become part of our public-it is wrong for you to think That the gays have a right to do their thing in private and it will not affect the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus told the woman caught  in adultery to &#8220;go and sin no more&#8221;.He did not say go back to your old life. God is a God of mercy and rejoices with the truth not a lie. Its in the new testament 1Corinthians 6 that the bible warns us that homosexuals will not enter heaven.This is not a time to negotiate truth.Laws are made for law breakers in order to protect other people in society according to the word of God.God knows that laws cant change hearts of people to do right but these laws will finally lead these law breakers towards His mercy otherwise how will God give mercy and these civil laws protect society.I wonder if Warren will turn away from civil laws in the name of laws dont change hearts? Civil laws that are made to protect the family and marriage cannot be graded as satanic and anti-God.These people who say that it is a private affair and that everyone has their own privacy to do what they want in their bedrooms,are mistaken because if the love making your parents did in private brought forth you in the world and you have become part of our public-it is wrong for you to think That the gays have a right to do their thing in private and it will not affect the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, those two laws could be an adequate foundation. But a foundation without building blocks serves no purpose, provides no protection, no stronghold, no shelter, no stability. If those two laws were all we needed, Christ would have simply repeated that same message everywhere He went...and the Epistles would have just regurgitated them over and over again as a mantra of sorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, those two laws could be an adequate foundation. But a foundation without building blocks serves no purpose, provides no protection, no stronghold, no shelter, no stability. If those two laws were all we needed, Christ would have simply repeated that same message everywhere He went&#8230;and the Epistles would have just regurgitated them over and over again as a mantra of sorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We all want the Jesus that stops and judges the mob…

Less so the Jesus that tells us to “Sin no more.”

No additional comment; I just thought it was worthy of being repeated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

David, Eddy,

So, so, true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We all want the Jesus that stops and judges the mob…</p>
<p>Less so the Jesus that tells us to “Sin no more.”</p>
<p>No additional comment; I just thought it was worthy of being repeated.</p></blockquote>
<p>David, Eddy,</p>
<p>So, so, true!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mob caught her in adultery. (They were right.  There was sin.)

The mob felt justified in stoning her.  After all, that was God&#039;s law, wasn&#039;t it?  And they were righteous, law-abiding people, weren&#039;t they?   (Narcissism and sadism.)

Jesus invited the sinless to throw first.  

No one did.  (Individual conscience enlightened by God.)

It occurred to me just now that Narcissim violates the first of the Great Commandments and self-righteous Sadism violates the second.

I know you balk somewhat, David, at the idea that these two commandments could be an adequate foundation for moral conduct, but I still think these two laws (if obeyed) would be all we really need for true &quot;morality&quot; and true justice.

http://philosophy.csusb.edu/~tmoody/Past%20classes/F05%20191%20Compassion.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mob caught her in adultery. (They were right.  There was sin.)</p>
<p>The mob felt justified in stoning her.  After all, that was God&#8217;s law, wasn&#8217;t it?  And they were righteous, law-abiding people, weren&#8217;t they?   (Narcissism and sadism.)</p>
<p>Jesus invited the sinless to throw first.  </p>
<p>No one did.  (Individual conscience enlightened by God.)</p>
<p>It occurred to me just now that Narcissim violates the first of the Great Commandments and self-righteous Sadism violates the second.</p>
<p>I know you balk somewhat, David, at the idea that these two commandments could be an adequate foundation for moral conduct, but I still think these two laws (if obeyed) would be all we really need for true &#8220;morality&#8221; and true justice.</p>
<p><a href="http://philosophy.csusb.edu/~tmoody/Past%20classes/F05%20191%20Compassion.htm" rel="nofollow">http://philosophy.csusb.edu/~tmoody/Past%20classes/F05%20191%20Compassion.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Christ says, “Awaken your conscience, stop sinning” and by implication, “live.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;I really like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Christ says, “Awaken your conscience, stop sinning” and by implication, “live.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I really like that.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree that It is important that one live according to one’s own conscience before God — whatever the mob might do or say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You misunderstood me...I think that often, the mob is right (there has been sin, for example), but their motives are poisoned by narcissism...and sadism.

It is not just my conscience before God, it is also my conscience in community, sometimes a hostile, belittling and stupid community.

My conscience is never wholly my own, it is an amalgamation of multiple generations, several cultures, my childhood and my adult experiences.  It can be just as fallen or corrupt as the mob...

The power of the mob is in the accusation that by our behavior we have demonstrated that our conscience is totally corrupt and that we are beyond redemption.

Christ says, &quot;Awaken you conscience, stop sinning&quot;  and by implication, &quot;live.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael,</p>
<blockquote><p>I agree that It is important that one live according to one’s own conscience before God — whatever the mob might do or say.</p></blockquote>
<p>You misunderstood me&#8230;I think that often, the mob is right (there has been sin, for example), but their motives are poisoned by narcissism&#8230;and sadism.</p>
<p>It is not just my conscience before God, it is also my conscience in community, sometimes a hostile, belittling and stupid community.</p>
<p>My conscience is never wholly my own, it is an amalgamation of multiple generations, several cultures, my childhood and my adult experiences.  It can be just as fallen or corrupt as the mob&#8230;</p>
<p>The power of the mob is in the accusation that by our behavior we have demonstrated that our conscience is totally corrupt and that we are beyond redemption.</p>
<p>Christ says, &#8220;Awaken you conscience, stop sinning&#8221;  and by implication, &#8220;live.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I agree that It is important that one live according to one&#039;s own conscience before God -- whatever the mob might do or say.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice.&quot;  -- 
Alexander Solzhenitsyn:&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I agree that It is important that one live according to one&#8217;s own conscience before God &#8212; whatever the mob might do or say.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Justice is conscience, not a personal conscience but the conscience of the whole of humanity. Those who clearly recognize the voice of their own conscience usually recognize also the voice of justice.&#8221;  &#8212;<br />
Alexander Solzhenitsyn:</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my own life, I have often feared the ridicule of the mob.  A mob that could be righteous, but more often sought to marginalize because of their power, my weakness, stupidity or sinfulness.

Too often I confused the mob with my conscience...when I silenced the mob, I still had my conscience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my own life, I have often feared the ridicule of the mob.  A mob that could be righteous, but more often sought to marginalize because of their power, my weakness, stupidity or sinfulness.</p>
<p>Too often I confused the mob with my conscience&#8230;when I silenced the mob, I still had my conscience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We all want the Jesus that stops and judges the mob…

Less so the Jesus that tells us to “Sin no more.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No additional comment; I just thought it was worthy of being repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We all want the Jesus that stops and judges the mob…</p>
<p>Less so the Jesus that tells us to “Sin no more.”</p></blockquote>
<p>No additional comment; I just thought it was worthy of being repeated.</p>
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