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		<title>By: Mike Airhart, TWO</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/19/exodus-comments-about-ugandan-situation-on-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-215686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Airhart, TWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy&#039;s statement is buried in a blog post, it is not expressed as an official statement despite his claim to the contrary, and is well-concealed from the public.

There has been no press release by Exodus, no outreach to Rick Warren, no condemnation of Stephen Langa and Martin Ssempa. And Exodus remains as deliberately vague as ever about Schmierer&#039;s role in a conference that he and Chambers knew in advance would be used to launch a new antigay pogrom.

Until Exodus issues a widely disseminated press release and condemns key individuals, Exodus has condemned nothing. Whispering a vague blog expression of horror, and offering to pray but do nothing else whatsoever, is in no way an explicit, official, public response to this human-rights disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy&#8217;s statement is buried in a blog post, it is not expressed as an official statement despite his claim to the contrary, and is well-concealed from the public.</p>
<p>There has been no press release by Exodus, no outreach to Rick Warren, no condemnation of Stephen Langa and Martin Ssempa. And Exodus remains as deliberately vague as ever about Schmierer&#8217;s role in a conference that he and Chambers knew in advance would be used to launch a new antigay pogrom.</p>
<p>Until Exodus issues a widely disseminated press release and condemns key individuals, Exodus has condemned nothing. Whispering a vague blog expression of horror, and offering to pray but do nothing else whatsoever, is in no way an explicit, official, public response to this human-rights disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Don Schmierer, &quot;one of the American participants in the infamous ex-gay conference in Kampala, Uganda back in March?&quot;  In hiding?  Of all people, wouldn&#039;t you think&lt;em&gt; he&lt;/em&gt; would/should step up and speak out?  At lease offer some sort of apology for this stupidity?  Is he still on Exodus&#039;s
Board?

I would imagine so -- since he went with their blessing and received their praise.  And why was it Randy Thomas, and not Exodus president, Alan Chambers, who gave Exodus&#039; &quot;official&quot; stand on this issue?  Alan can sure take official stands on other issues and issue press releases for issues he really cares about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Don Schmierer, &#8220;one of the American participants in the infamous ex-gay conference in Kampala, Uganda back in March?&#8221;  In hiding?  Of all people, wouldn&#8217;t you think<em> he</em> would/should step up and speak out?  At lease offer some sort of apology for this stupidity?  Is he still on Exodus&#8217;s<br />
Board?</p>
<p>I would imagine so &#8212; since he went with their blessing and received their praise.  And why was it Randy Thomas, and not Exodus president, Alan Chambers, who gave Exodus&#8217; &#8220;official&#8221; stand on this issue?  Alan can sure take official stands on other issues and issue press releases for issues he really cares about.</p>
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		<title>By: Urgent: Uganda&#8217;s Inhumane Anti-Homosexuality Bill &#171; Pursue God</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urgent: Uganda&#8217;s Inhumane Anti-Homosexuality Bill &#171; Pursue God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After you have written the letter and sent it to the contacts below, please cut and paste it in the comments section. I have already done so and posted my letter below, and you are welcome to use any portion of what I have written for your letter. I have also included in the comments section a sample letter from IGLHRC. For more information, see this BBC article as well as Warren Throckmorton. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After you have written the letter and sent it to the contacts below, please cut and paste it in the comments section. I have already done so and posted my letter below, and you are welcome to use any portion of what I have written for your letter. I have also included in the comments section a sample letter from IGLHRC. For more information, see this BBC article as well as Warren Throckmorton. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have sent Exodus&#039;s official statement with each email I have sent so far.  I think it say a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sent Exodus&#8217;s official statement with each email I have sent so far.  I think it say a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael,

I agree with the Rick Warren referral...and suggested it earlier.

Fred Phelps has never been the face of either Evangelicalism or Fundamentalist Christianity.  Some on the left like to beat us about the head and shoulders with his obscene views...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael,</p>
<p>I agree with the Rick Warren referral&#8230;and suggested it earlier.</p>
<p>Fred Phelps has never been the face of either Evangelicalism or Fundamentalist Christianity.  Some on the left like to beat us about the head and shoulders with his obscene views&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!   I guess Randy Thomas deleted my post about the incongruity between what Schmierer said in that quote and what Stephen Langa and the FLN have been doing.  Yet he leaves the trackback to this Throckmorton post which states the same thing. 

Opposing views or posts which highlite incongruities in his statements are ok, as long as they don&#039;t appear in the comments section of his (Exodus&#039;) blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!   I guess Randy Thomas deleted my post about the incongruity between what Schmierer said in that quote and what Stephen Langa and the FLN have been doing.  Yet he leaves the trackback to this Throckmorton post which states the same thing. </p>
<p>Opposing views or posts which highlite incongruities in his statements are ok, as long as they don&#8217;t appear in the comments section of his (Exodus&#8217;) blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Randy, on the Exodus blog:  &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Yes, this is an official response from Exodus.&quot;  &lt;/blockquote&gt;He made a point of saying he wasn&#039;t responding to &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt;.  That doesn&#039;t matter.  It was for Uganda, not  me.  Again, I thank Exodus for doing it.  They must have thought it might do some good too.  I think it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Randy, on the Exodus blog:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Yes, this is an official response from Exodus.&#8221;  </p></blockquote>
<p>He made a point of saying he wasn&#8217;t responding to <em>me</em>.  That doesn&#8217;t matter.  It was for Uganda, not  me.  Again, I thank Exodus for doing it.  They must have thought it might do some good too.  I think it will.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought, instead of risking losing something by attempting to paraphrase it, I think I will send Randy&#039;s statement, word-for-word:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Ugandan government is seeking to further stigmatize and criminalize (to death or extreme punishment) people who deal with homosexuality. It seems that the government has no respect for freedom.  Especially as it pertains to free will or self-determination on what a person does with their own same sex attractions. This sweeping, hateful, public policy being promoted threatens anyone struggling with same sex attractions, and their loved ones, with death or imprisonment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it says it very well.  I will distribute it to everyone I know.  Pray it has more power to have an impact than some here seem to think it will.  God is at work.  And God can do anything.

Hey, here&#039;s a thought: Maybe we could ask Rick Warren if he agrees.  If he does, who knows?  Maybe other religious leaders and organizations will follow suit.  Maybe even the Family Life Network and International Healing Foundation will get on Board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, instead of risking losing something by attempting to paraphrase it, I think I will send Randy&#8217;s statement, word-for-word:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Ugandan government is seeking to further stigmatize and criminalize (to death or extreme punishment) people who deal with homosexuality. It seems that the government has no respect for freedom.  Especially as it pertains to free will or self-determination on what a person does with their own same sex attractions. This sweeping, hateful, public policy being promoted threatens anyone struggling with same sex attractions, and their loved ones, with death or imprisonment.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it says it very well.  I will distribute it to everyone I know.  Pray it has more power to have an impact than some here seem to think it will.  God is at work.  And God can do anything.</p>
<p>Hey, here&#8217;s a thought: Maybe we could ask Rick Warren if he agrees.  If he does, who knows?  Maybe other religious leaders and organizations will follow suit.  Maybe even the Family Life Network and International Healing Foundation will get on Board.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, it can go like this: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt; &quot;Exodus, the world&#039;s largest network of ex-gay ministries, has denounced this hateful legislation.  For the sake of freedom of ministry and individual concience, won&#039;t you do the same?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s what I intend to say when I communicate with Rick Warren and the other contacts we have been given.  Thanks Debbie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, it can go like this: <strong><em> &#8220;Exodus, the world&#8217;s largest network of ex-gay ministries, has denounced this hateful legislation.  For the sake of freedom of ministry and individual concience, won&#8217;t you do the same?&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s what I intend to say when I communicate with Rick Warren and the other contacts we have been given.  Thanks Debbie.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/19/exodus-comments-about-ugandan-situation-on-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-213676</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought -- I have always believed that the &quot;I have no power, so what good would it do for me to speak out?&quot; excuse was one of the devil&#039;s most powerful tools.  

Issuing these statements, even from an organization with &quot;miniscule power&quot;, may have great impact as one voice builds upon the other.  One brave Christian voice.  Then another.  And another.  Until it&#039;s a loud, collective cry.

The devil loves silence.

PS, I know it&#039;s hard to believe, but as I told Warren today by phone, This was not about making Exodus look bad.  It geuinely distresses me when I see Exodus in a mess like this.   I would have been fighting for this just as hard if I were still ex-gay and still an Exodus Board member -- just to let people know where we stand. 

The founders would have.  I know Jim Kaspar would have.  Gary Cooper would have.  Robbi, Ron, Greg -- even Frank Worthen.  I am SURE of it.

I am very proud that Exodus spoke.  And that&#039;s a fact, not gloating.  They may not have done it the way I wanted, but they did the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought &#8212; I have always believed that the &#8220;I have no power, so what good would it do for me to speak out?&#8221; excuse was one of the devil&#8217;s most powerful tools.  </p>
<p>Issuing these statements, even from an organization with &#8220;miniscule power&#8221;, may have great impact as one voice builds upon the other.  One brave Christian voice.  Then another.  And another.  Until it&#8217;s a loud, collective cry.</p>
<p>The devil loves silence.</p>
<p>PS, I know it&#8217;s hard to believe, but as I told Warren today by phone, This was not about making Exodus look bad.  It geuinely distresses me when I see Exodus in a mess like this.   I would have been fighting for this just as hard if I were still ex-gay and still an Exodus Board member &#8212; just to let people know where we stand. </p>
<p>The founders would have.  I know Jim Kaspar would have.  Gary Cooper would have.  Robbi, Ron, Greg &#8212; even Frank Worthen.  I am SURE of it.</p>
<p>I am very proud that Exodus spoke.  And that&#8217;s a fact, not gloating.  They may not have done it the way I wanted, but they did the right thing.</p>
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