Comments on: NARTH not petitioning APAs

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 04:02:53 +0000

Warren,

Sounds like the study was divided along ideological lines. The people who didn’t like it did their best to downplay it.

By: Warren

Warren — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:32:21 +0000

My suggestion is to use the search function on this blog and look for Shidlo and read more about it.

Here is a place to start:
http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/09/22/homophobic-therapies-documenting-the-damage/

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:30:53 +0000

Maybe I’m approaching this the wrong way – what was the nature of the S&S study? Why did they stop it?

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:26:49 +0000

I’m curious why, if S&S were doing research on harm, the people who benefited from the therapy were contacting them? Did they not know the nature of the study?

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:17:09 +0000

I knew one of them had had a good deal of trouble tracking down anyone who identified as ex-gay. Thanks

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:16:32 +0000

but the outcry against therapies for people with unwanted SSA is not based upon any meaningful body of research….one study.

But it is based on very personal tragedy experienced by untold numbers of people. And that is not something that can be simply dismissed.

By: Warren

Warren — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:15:52 +0000

@Jayhuck: He did have some difficulty but he found more positives more quickly (not quite 2 years versus 5 years for S&S).

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:14:42 +0000

It must have been Dr. Spitzer’s study – it may have been him who was having trouble finding any ex-gay people for his study!

By: Jayhuck

Jayhuck — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:13:23 +0000

David,

I personally haven’t seen people in those other groups hurt to the extent they have been hurt in various ex-gay groups – their numbers are troubling – and these are just the ones I know about.

By: David Blakeslee

David Blakeslee — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:43:07 +0000

@ Everyone…

Oops, facts are troublesome things…

The fact seems to be that S and S is the only study.

Then there are anecdotal accounts like Pathias.

And support groups, such as Ex-gay survivor.

I am aware of clients who felt harmed by referral to AA; I have had clients who were harmed by “recovered memories.”

But studies to verify? None.

I think it should be done…but the outcry against therapies for people with unwanted SSA is not based upon any meaningful body of research….one study.

And they are outraged by Byrd’s and Nicolosi’s pay to publish studies and self-reports! How absurd and unbalanced this criticism is.