I think you may have made an error here:

“I think *all* of the unisex public or institutional toilets have been connected to sex crime of some description, voyeurism or child pornography, those that exist (in schools) now have matrons in some cases etc.”

Please support your statement with some research that all of the unisex public bathrooms have been connected to a sex crime.

When you exaggerate to this extent, it is hard to believe anything else written. Please be careful in your statements.

Cameras in bathrooms is an entirely different issue to transsexual use of restrooms…I’m also not sure of this connection.

The United Kingdom I can do.

I think *all* of the unisex public or institutional toilets have been connected to sex crime of some description, voyeurism or child pornography, those that exist (in schools) now have matrons in some cases etc.

However in Great Britain very little of that will send anybody to jail. In countries which routinely imprison pedophiles it might obviously be a little different. It must surely have some effect.

Also, in the UK placing a secret camera in a girls toilet is not in itelf illegal. So it is quite common in schools and other places, original photography of schoolgirls in toilets or taking ink out of blouses etc., can be sold in Japan for a lot of cash.

In the UK the number of males associated with U18 pornography is 2.4 millions.

That was before child pornography was criminalized via the SOA 2003. Child pornography web-site usaage, is about 800,000. The Brits use to produce a lot of child pornography for export.

I organized vents in Berlin when the Stasi ran the the ‘other’ place, the ‘bring a shovel’ parties over the wall were 1920s hedonism on a tight budget.

I have to say that this local authority has completely me out-done in strangeness.

I was prepared to go to a gulag for a joke, for fun, for something that was rationed, freedom, not the liberty to flash my penis in the park, or to scare women. I think these politicians are betraying America.

With respect I don’t think MC has stereotypical ideas on gender appropriate dress, they are a radical thinking organization and I am not aware that beards have to be shaved or dresses worn etc.

Obviously anybody will have a free pass to peek, but that would appear to be the price to be paid to protect whatever it is they are protecting.

I am not being vague on the last point, they simply don’t know, they are apparently wide open on the definition front.

They are famous now, which is of course precisely what they wanted.

Please see profiles and stats on criminals and their geographic area of incident. You will be surprised to find out what people do to “get away with it”. What you “imagine” is not what the criminal imagines.

Mary-
I realize that rape is a horrible crime. Several of my female friends have been raped…for one of them it was nearly 35 years ago, a year or two before we met. I understand the fear. But Pathia reminded us that there is the letter they are required to carry.

The restroom rapist you’re fearing isn’t the transsexual or the intersex person, rape isn’t what their situation is about. They simply ‘gotta use the facilities”. Unlike men’s bathrooms, women have closed door stalls for all users. Everybody should be able to do their business without anybody seeing anybody else’s anything.

I read the letter from the lawyers and there seems to be a fear that rapists could exploit this law to their advantage. And then I thought, wait. The rapist (who isn’t an intersex person or a transsexual) would need to ‘go in drag’ to a public place. I mean, they’d have to be able to walk into the ladies room without drawing any suspicion, right? So, they’d have to go beyond ‘football player drag’ and really do themselves up right. And, unless they were exceptionally great at transforming themselves into a woman, they couldn’t get away with this stunt within 30 miles of their home…for fear of somebody recognizing them under the makeup. I really can’t see this as a viable possibility.

Jayhuck,

I’m not sure – the incident I mentioned earlier was not in a unisex bathroom. In fact I don’t think I ever said what the facility was or the details of the incident.

I actually think Unisex bathrooms might be safer because men could monitor other men and women could monitor other women for anything inappropriate and protect each other. The individual who is in transition would not have to worry so much about being in isolation if both sexes were present. The problem would be if there were only two people present in the bathroom and one wanted to harm the other. For the person who wishes to be in a same gender facility and that is breached by another person disguising themselves to be the same gender with the intent of harming them or another, then a very real fear is realized and could have devastating consequences.

Jag,

This is a very important distinction and one that should never be confused with the other. In my earlier post I tried to separate the two with an “on another note” distinction.