Comments on: Only the gay die young? Part 5 – Morten Frisch responds to Kirk Cameron http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/ A College Psychology Professor's Observations About Public Policy, Mental Health, Sexual Identity, and Religious Issues Wed, 23 May 2012 11:05:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Joey Tranchina http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-168641 Joey Tranchina Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:19:31 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-168641 The Cameron's pseudo-science is a text-book example of the misuse of statistics. They disgrace the values of the science that they pretend to practice. We, virtually all of us here, have known that for decades. The problem is that they do not depend upon the peer-reviewed and verifiable annals of science, they pitch to the dirty curtains where ignorance, bigotry and blind-faith house fear, desperation and spiritual chaos. These demagogues do not seek colleagues but shock-troops who they arm with nonsense that passes all the tests it's put to. "Gobbledegook" is good enough for their intended market. Their contribution must be measured not by its academic defects but by the harm it does in the hands of those who enter the world armed with slings and arrows of toxic disinformation. There must be a greater and more-immediate price to pay for malpractice when practiced in the name of science. In the name of science, there must be a higher profile of public humiliation for pandering faux interpretations of data lacking in integrity. We need an international prize for bad science, that comes attached with notoriety. Call it "The Benedict Arnold Prize, for flexible integrity in pseudo-scientific research." it doesn't matter what it's called. What is important is that public scorn echoes outside professional circles and is attached to the miscreants so that it limits the impact of the suffering they inflict in the name of "science." The Cameron’s pseudo-science is a text-book example of the misuse of statistics. They disgrace the values of the science that they pretend to practice. We, virtually all of us here, have known that for decades. The problem is that they do not depend upon the peer-reviewed and verifiable annals of science, they pitch to the dirty curtains where ignorance, bigotry and blind-faith house fear, desperation and spiritual chaos. These demagogues do not seek colleagues but shock-troops who they arm with nonsense that passes all the tests it’s put to. “Gobbledegook” is good enough for their intended market. Their contribution must be measured not by its academic defects but by the harm it does in the hands of those who enter the world armed with slings and arrows of toxic disinformation. There must be a greater and more-immediate price to pay for malpractice when practiced in the name of science.

In the name of science, there must be a higher profile of public humiliation for pandering faux interpretations of data lacking in integrity. We need an international prize for bad science, that comes attached with notoriety. Call it “The Benedict Arnold Prize, for flexible integrity in pseudo-scientific research.” it doesn’t matter what it’s called. What is important is that public scorn echoes outside professional circles and is attached to the miscreants so that it limits the impact of the suffering they inflict in the name of “science.”

]]> By: Frisch & Hviid and reparative drive theory revisited — Warren Throckmorton http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-164392 Frisch & Hviid and reparative drive theory revisited — Warren Throckmorton Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:01:10 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-164392 [...] with homosexual and heterosexual marriage in Denmark. Morten is no stranger to this blog as he commented at length regarding the Cameron’s biased attempt to estimate homosexual lifespans. I reviewed [...] [...] with homosexual and heterosexual marriage in Denmark. Morten is no stranger to this blog as he commented at length regarding the Cameron’s biased attempt to estimate homosexual lifespans. I reviewed [...]

]]> By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Certified Cameronite: Kathleen Gilbert, OneNewsNow and LifeSite http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-129441 Box Turtle Bulletin » Certified Cameronite: Kathleen Gilbert, OneNewsNow and LifeSite Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:02:10 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-129441 [...] we reported today, Kathleen Gilbert has reached into the depths of “agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook” by a Nazi apologist to fuel her anti-gay propaganda on the web sites LifeSite News and [...] [...] we reported today, Kathleen Gilbert has reached into the depths of “agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook” by a Nazi apologist to fuel her anti-gay propaganda on the web sites LifeSite News and [...]

]]> By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Study Author: LifeSite and OneNewsNow Misrepresent Our Review http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-129439 Box Turtle Bulletin » Study Author: LifeSite and OneNewsNow Misrepresent Our Review Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:01:26 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-129439 [...] have already examined glaring flaws in Cameron’s study, as has Danish epidemiologist Morton Frisch who described his study as “humorous example of agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific [...] [...] have already examined glaring flaws in Cameron’s study, as has Danish epidemiologist Morton Frisch who described his study as “humorous example of agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific [...]

]]> By: Insure.com in gay lifespan dispute — Warren Throckmorton http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-112669 Insure.com in gay lifespan dispute — Warren Throckmorton Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:35:34 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-112669 [...] have covered this matter here in depth (e.g. here). To make it easier to follow that nine-part series, I have put it into one article - “Only [...] [...] have covered this matter here in depth (e.g. here). To make it easier to follow that nine-part series, I have put it into one article – “Only [...]

]]> By: Michael Bussee http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-22379 Michael Bussee Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:39:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-22379 "As a consequence, any report on human sexuality originating from this institution will by definition be devoid of objectivity and of questionable scientific value." Couldn't the same thing be said of NARTH? “As a consequence, any report on human sexuality originating from this institution will by definition be devoid of objectivity and of questionable scientific value.”

Couldn’t the same thing be said of NARTH?

]]> By: Box Turtle Bulletin » Blog Archive » But Wait! There’s More About Paul Cameron… http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-22177 Box Turtle Bulletin » Blog Archive » But Wait! There’s More About Paul Cameron… Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:01:22 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-22177 [...] analysis of Cameron’s “Scandinavian Gay Lifespan” study. Now he has posted another response from Danish epidemiologist Morton Frisch. He notes the same problem that I cited with Cameron’s Danish samples — they only [...] [...] analysis of Cameron’s “Scandinavian Gay Lifespan” study. Now he has posted another response from Danish epidemiologist Morton Frisch. He notes the same problem that I cited with Cameron’s Danish samples — they only [...]

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/comment-page-1/#comment-22163 Timothy Kincaid Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:47:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/24/only-the-gay-die-young-part-5-morten-frisch-responds-to-kirk-cameron/#comment-22163 <i>Although the Camerons’ report has no objective scientific value, the authors should be acknowledged for providing teachers with a humorous example of agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook that will make lessons in elementary study design and scientific inference much more amusing for future epidemiology students.</i> Ironically, the Camerons may well achieve fame for their efforts - as just such an illustration. In much the same way the Baron von Munchausen has become well known for his tales of adventure, the Camerons could become known for their approach to statistical analysis. Perhaps it could be called the Cameron Method. Although the Camerons’ report has no objective scientific value, the authors should be acknowledged for providing teachers with a humorous example of agenda-driven, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook that will make lessons in elementary study design and scientific inference much more amusing for future epidemiology students.

Ironically, the Camerons may well achieve fame for their efforts – as just such an illustration. In much the same way the Baron von Munchausen has become well known for his tales of adventure, the Camerons could become known for their approach to statistical analysis.

Perhaps it could be called the Cameron Method.

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